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Good luck to Laura and her Workington team & supporters tonight

What a place !! Awful viewing , awful track ,that monstrosity in the middle of it and more life in my little finger than the crowd last night , no atmosphere whatsoever for a grand final . Should have been called at heat 11, that ref needs to get herself on a Speedway bike see if she could have rode it 10point lead tonight for the Hammers ...is it enough ?? Mmmmm

Decent facilities, clean toilets and a well prepared track for the riders to race on. None of these were on offer during lakeside's stint at Rye. I will still go, because I'm too old to change, but the sport has no chance of attracting a new fan base, to replace the present generation.

Those currently at the top of the BSPA must be removed at the AGM They have presided over the worst unorganised season in living memory..More of the same next season could put the final nail in the coffin of british speedway.....

If it is him you will close down soon. Has ruined Peterborough twice mildenhall and Coventry. Well meaning buffoon. And his brother was even worse.

Good luck to both sides, may the best team win and hopefully both are back on track next season

After being at Rye House yesterday and witnessing how lack lustre it was there it really made me realise what a travesty it would be for us to lose Speedway in Workington The Workington Speedway Trust is still alive and kicking we can all be part of saving our Speedway . £500 can sound a lot but just think it could be 200 people putting £100 in, 100 people putting £200 , if we lose Speedway this time I fear it will never come back ..what an awful thought !!

Perhaps Rob Godfrey dictated that a Worky thread could not be started on a Friday......

At times like this i am just thankful for the ignore option

Is that some sort of stomach upset known to be highly contagious before and during top sporting events ?Think i might have a twinge or two coming on if it is

as marksman has said . workington were far quicker from the start and even had the home fans cheering and smelling victory before the apex of bends 1 and 2 . they were in command even at that stage of the race . as i see it , a track is a track and almost everyone is different , apart from the purpose built ones .. being around a rugby pitch has its drawback , but who cares . at this moment in time . we have speedway for another two meetings and then ,who knows . dont moan about how sticky the base is or the camber , adverse or what ever . salute the people who use their time and MONEY to put on a show for everybody around the u.k.

We aren’t going trick or treating tonight

The sad thing is that when Rye won the league in 2005 and 2007 the place was rocking. Its never been very pretty but the viewing was good and although still a gaters track did produce good racing. Since the airfence went in its changed a lot and viewing is difficult. Track changes have taken away the technical element and it’s too flat out follow the leader.

Looks like its 'done the trick'

Think the reality is we will soon be a semi professional sport within the UK. Arguments going on behind the scenes not much agreement and these people are supposed to have the interest of the sport at heart. Sadly too many are only interested in their own club and little bubble around them. Too many ego’s in the room too, it’s no coincidence that we have ‘decent’ people leaving the sport because the old wood in the sport can’t see further than there nose. Take the Peterborough info now finally realised this week, how can someone who is investing in our sport and buying assets then be punished and lose out? Seems to be the same people within the top table doing more and more damage year in year out. The sport has been sold up the river in the last 10 years, the TV deal is an absolute joke and to think the money involved before to now! Make the sport simple and stop punishing winning teams, fans want to see more continuity with riders who they can connect with, not having to sack them because they were too successful.

Who’s got nervous butterflies today?!

So you didn't pull, then?

I pop in from time to time, just to check for anything interesting on Panthers-related threads. I very rarely look at other threads, and post on them even less. I spotted this "Panthers 2019" heading and - silly me! - thought it'd be worth a shufty. But what do I find? Same old inane dross, very little that's actually to do with Panthers, and juvenile posts by people like Jenga and THJ. One thinks his posts are highly amusing and entertaining (they're not) and whenever he's taken to task he hides behind the "it's just banter" excuse. The other comes across as an argumentative **** who mistakenly thinks he's a master of the put-down. No doubt he basks in a self-satisfied glow at his posts, thinking them to be very erudite. Oh dear, if only he knew how unintelligent and inarticulate he sounds At the mo, the only thing anybody can say about Panthers 2019 is that Ged has given us an assurance that Panthers will run next season whether he finds a suitable buyer or not. After the umpteen winters we've had worrying, let's just rejoice in that. The pick-a-team game can wait until after the AGM. In the meantime, I wish the annoying numpties would stay the f*ck out of Panthers' threads - but I guess there's as much chance of that happening as the SCB/BSPA running speedway properly!

I am at a loss to understand how far downhill the sport has gone. Mildenhall cannot find enough riders for a meeting at Eastbourne and one wonders whether this has anything to do with the alleged rumours over financial condition of the club and the fact that it is supposedly up for sale. Perhaps riders are unsure about being properly remunerated. Here we are at the end of October and still unfinished business in two of the three leagues. In the upper echelons of the sport Mr May is whinging in the SS about comments on forums and claiming people don’t know all the facts. Well perhaps if he and his cohorts who run clubs were open, honest and stopped treating fans with such disdain and put the record straight rather than let speculation run riot then they would have no need to ‘blast off’ as he says. The comments on here and elsewhere manifest themselves primarily because none of you at the BSPA know fact from fiction and if it is so frustrating Mr May do something positive about it. You obviously read some of the comments, get some balls and respond. No one really slags off speedway just those that run it and some who participate or don’t as is the case with riders not bothered about meetings. Why don’t you all reflect on what a mess 2018 has been, admit it and then get your own house in order then you would find fans would have little criticism to make on a public forum, but alas for years you collectively have failed miserably. That Mr May is why people ‘blast off ‘ and will continue to do so as long as you treat the punter the way you do. If it is that bad, shut up shop and do something else, but as long as you involve the public you put your head above the parapet and have to be prepared to deal with the flack. Clearly you are having trouble with it. As the topic implies, it is a fixture shambles which is out of control and gets worse year on year and that sums the sport up as well, a shambles.

It's gonna be a long day waiting for 7:30 p.m.......and hasn't helped with clocks going back. As for meeting I think ten points will be difficult this time.....Morris, Lawson and Ellis are no slouches.....especially Morris who will be hard to beat.

Not at all. I was merely trying to illustrate that there are clubs - like Wolves and Poole and others - that clearly wish to operate at SGBP level. It seems to me that many so-called fans want to place the blame for all speedway's ills at the feet of the SGBP clubs, when its the SGBC clubs that appear to have just as many if not more problems themselves, yet by sheer numbers are allowed to outvote or overrule SGBP clubs on crucial issues for the way forward.

What I think understandably depresses a lot of fans are the many lost years when the right action could have at best turned the future of the sport around or, at the very least, stopped the continual decline. Those most recently in charge have shown that they don't have the answers and it is alarming that the current chairman believes that there is little wrong with how the sport is currently run. There are people who are positive but that of itself doesn't help. We need people in charge who understand what is wrong and who have the vision and ability to put it right. I agree with what you say about the Isle of Wight, I see good things happening at Glasgow and the promoters at my own club are working to increase the profile of the club and to get the fans and riders more involved with each other. I am sure they and other promoters could all contribute to improving the sport if others will listen and work together. However, that is fiddling round the edges of the major problems. There's a need for a proper root and branch look at the sport. They need to identify what needs to be done to make the sport attractive to many more people than currently attend. To be accepted as a serious, professional sport it has to be credible and run with integrity. To take the most recent example, ignoring a rule for one night only in the final of the premier competition would never stand up to the scrutiny of the mainstream media and should never happen. We need 21st century presentations, slick and entertaining, tracks prepared to provide the best possible racing and to make fans feel valued. When the overall product has been improved we need then to make sure that those currently unaware of their local track become aware. We know that the money isn't there for individual tracks to invest in huge scale advertising so thought needs to be given to a common fund for effective national advertising and ways found to supplement that by affordable local initiatives.

the way I see it recent years there are no PROMOTERS any more theres just people in charge who put meetings on very rare do you see anything being promoted in speedway apart from gp at Cardiff and the odd shared event

It's easy to talk about being postive when you're not handing over the money. Admission alone has cost me £111, that's without programmes or travel. In todays day and age it's all about customer service, and that is where speedway has a lot to learn.

The farcical 2018 'grand' final was probably the final nail in British speedways coffin . so, no it doesn't sound good .... At the moment it sounds irrelevant , and thats no slant on the Pirates BTW