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Move it to Scunthorpe and you'll get an amazing meeting

You know, that would probably be the most named four... Funny how the most unpopular riders are all multi-world champs; says it all, really!

Friend of mine worked for years with Slater's when out of the blue they sacked him. Took them to court for funfair dismissal

I think I agree. But doesn't that support the argument that the Challenge should be after the GP season? The more current GP riders that take part in the plan B route, the more devalued the Challenge becomes. I know we still get 3 qualifiers from the Challenge, come what may. But we might have to go well down the finishing order to see who that is. And worse still, we won't know who those 3 are, on the night or potentially for many weeks. Surely the Challenge route was set up to provide a focused route for the top three riders to get into the GP series? Not as a safety net for riders in the middle and lower order of the current series.

Many tracks no longer fit with modern engines. Look at what is served up at some tracks that were superb even less than 10 years ago. Whilst its not the only reason for the lack of entertainment, team owners need to adapt their product (track shape/width etc) to suit the modern era. Very few have or will bother to do so. Entertainment IMO is about passing not necessarily speed and the ridiculous gulf between abilities at the top and bottom of the riders averages wont achieve that. Nor will poorly prepared tracks. If last night the riders were on £250 for the meeting that is likely to be around a quarter of what most of the top enders will take home. I'm not surprised they don't take it seriously or put themselves out. There is no prestige in these events and wont be again unless the competitors are adequately rewarded for taking part. Speedway doesn't even give out medals to the league winners far less reward the riders and their teams for being better than the rest over a season. The whole ethos up is fundamentally flawed but we already know that. Unfortunately we also accept its not going to change.

I hope that when the dust has settled from this debacle of a season there is some philanthropist willing to step in and repair the damage this season has caused to Panthers.

Dave is his uncle. Dave's brother and Ellis' father is former ref Robbie Perks Edit - correction Dave is ELLIS' great uncle.

The boo's that were made were out out of respect more than anything else he was the benchmark that everyone had to try to expire to..He certainly put bums on seats and when he came into town the place was buzzing.The incident Ivan had with Bob Kilby at the Abbey was the only time he may have been in the wrong that i ever witnessed but he was a hard but fair rider.

I seem to remember he pulled wheelies down every straight to keep the crowd entertained as they watched the less than edge of the seat spectacle of one rider completing four laps all alone.. Obviously the ref didn't appreciate his efforts.. Or lack of them as he saw it... You have to remember though that the crowd were primarily there to watch him referee, not to be entertained by the show the riders were putting on for them...

Greaves rode to the pits after someone fell bend 2 (thinking the race was gonna be stopped)and was excluded. Then Ayres and Phillip's either fell or had mechanicals and both set off to push for 3 laps, both were excluded for not completing the race in 3 mins.

Which is completely his own fault with the bare minimum cheap ass team he has provided us with this year.

Well Ben Morley did ride and scored 13 points in a match won by Kent 48-42

Can we congratulate Erik Riss on his win. Thread Seems to have turned into a Craig Cook one.

... and yet back in the "golden" days the tractors came out at the end of every race and did a couple of laps. Meetings dragged on for two hours - only 13 heats in those days too - but everything was sunshine and lollipops. Admittedly at most tracks the music being played today is the same as we listened to as the tractors tootled round in the 1970s

Maybe now that plan B has worked the shackles are off so they're riding with less pressure. They've both been pretty under par all season but all of a sudden they now ride to their ability

Many thanks for the info, think this could be a nightmare one to sort out!

He still is. On track he was a great "friend" of Neil Evitts.

The very sad occasion of Gary Peterson's death.

To be honest those same posters straight away after a Poole and ask where Gavan is all the time, and when he posts he is the instigator! Both parties equally at fault.

Both of us will qualify. I can’t see Ipswich getting another point this season.

Because he tells lies. He did not change bikes and did not alter anything on the bikes. If he was ill, fine, say that and stick to it. just be honest with the people who pay to watch I hope Nicholls gets a ban as when I heard the pay rates on Thursday, he was first name to spring to mind for not turning up. Charles Wright missed a meeting at Ipswich but rode either side of it, so he should have a ban. with no punishment it will carry on. The clubs should also get no facility to cover any bans for riders picking and choosing when to put in any effort or not.

There is a reason Cook struggles to find top teams especially in Poland and Sweden and its because of his attitude. There are many riders who ride in both Poland and Sweden who are far less talented than Cook but dint come with the baggage. Belle Vue got shot of him for exactly the same issues that he showed today. Attitude !!!! There were loads of fans that had travelled from Glasgow and other places including Workington to support Craig today for him to spit his dummy out yet again. Shocking behaviour he was only just about going through the motions coming out last from the pits in his first three rides showing no commitment at all pretending to do them starts then disappears from the pits. He should be fined for that today. In fact should he not be banned at the minute anyway ? What's happened to that incident ? He totally made himself look a right t@at today.

The plaudits of the previous posters say it all. Not many riders go through a whole career with barely a bad word said about them but everyone liked AJ. AJ - A massive talent, and thoroughly nice bloke. Leigh Lanham said his favourite times in the sport were riding No 2 at Lakeside with AJ at No1. Fantastic team rider . It was always amusing to see AJ coming off bend 2 and pointing to where he wanted Leigh to go, left or right, Leigh would go there and AJ would bring him home. One thing many people didn’t see was that he was meticulously organised and always treated his mechanics extremely well. All good things come to an end. Sorry to see AJ go but as has been said, he has taken a lot of knocks and I am glad to see him leave in one piece, and while he is still relatively near the top. He still rides at No1 in my dream team though.

B up 4 this .Big Big home win Puk will toy with Doyle like a mouse

Philiprising- Eurosport will be showing the Olympics in the UK in 2020 it’s only because of the protected rights legislation here that they have to allow a free to air broadcaster share the coverage. They also have a number of high profile snooker tournaments during the summer and as I previously indicated like with the SGP and British Speedway they are chasing after other rights some a lot bigger than Speedway including some football not UK but major European league as well as other high profile sports. So with just two channels my worry is that Speedway will get bumped on a regular occasion and viewers will end up with recorded replay. We shall have to see how it all works out the main thing is keeping the sport on British TV for fans and sponsors