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  1. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    • UK unemployment rate by country 2022 | Statista
  2. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    If I remember rightly both took a pretty good dump on their workforce.
  3. One positive many claimed would come out of Covid following all the hand clapping and praise for key workers was that they would forever be recognised for their importance in running the country. Just a few months after restrictions have ended all those nurses, retail workers, distribution staff etc that were so necessary in an emergency are firmly back in their place at the bottom of the pile when it comes to pay and conditions. In truth I said at the time I never expected it to be any different, still disappointing to be right though.
  4. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    Think of those EU workers Brexit has saved from exploitation in industries that show no respect for their staff! Remember how everybody was disgusted when the airlines laid staff off and changed contracts in their favour rather than furlough their staff? I for one said at the time that I hoped it came back to bite them when the lockdowns were over and I'm glad it has.
  5. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    If you think that the only possible benefit of leaving the EU can be measured by GDP.
  6. The one thing he has done very well indeed is choose his forum name.
  7. And some see it the same way, funny how there's no right and wrong with opinions!
  8. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    Rocket science it ain't! And yet the UK according to you has an important role in defending against Russian aggression. Putin would take notice of the UK as I pointed out if for no other reason than we have a leading role within NATO.
  9. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    No terrorists involved in the Good Friday agreement? France and Germany were NATO members last I looked and it is as NATO members that their military forces are relevant, their EU membership is not relevant to offering military resistance. Of course I did say that the EU was militarily irrelevant not it's member countries but you will always try to change what others say to suit your argument. Obviously Putin is most concerned by the size of the US military but it is NATO as a whole that keeps him mostly in check. You are the only person I know that disregards the UK's armed forces which otherwise command respect worldwide.
  10. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    What a complete and utter load of tosh. Of course they attempted to influence the Brexit referendum, just like they have tried to influence just about every decision made by the west for a long time now. Of course 'offering succour' or 'colluding' could also be described as trying to lessen the animosity between countries, somebody so keen on the Good Friday agreement should recognise that. Yet again though you completely disregard the most important fact which is that Britain is still a leading member of NATO which is actually relevant to how far Putin dare push while the EU is militarily irrelevant to Russian aggression and whether the UK is a member even more so. It does yet again demonstrate your willingness to use absolutely any adverse situation to blame the UK leaving the EU though.
  11. Whilst I am in full agreement that Johnson should go I can see absolutely no reason why the only realistic option for a different government would be expected to be any better. I don't see the Labour Party as a better alternative in any way, in fact, impossible as it may seem I personally think they would be quite a lot worse.
  12. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    That all sounds sensible until you consider that after New Labour entered government apprenticeships changed from 4 or 5 year training programs that gave you a full City and Guilds qualification in a recognisable trade to some being as short as 6 weeks in things like retail and warehouse work. Many industries that haven't provided training or apprenticeships for years now have programs in place to increase these positions year on year for the next 5 years. It's not a big step to see that a ready source of cheap, skilled labour reduces the need to produce staff trained in house. And if it happened you would undoubtedly place the blame entirely on Brexit I have long argued that we need to start paying proper prices for many things including our food. The supermarkets have decimated our UK agricultural industry, at least in the small and medium sectors in the name of vast profits for the few. I do argue that staff should be paid properly and especially those working unsocial days and hours. If the hospitality trade can't support properly paid staff then it isn't a viable business is the long and short of it. They would do them if the pay and working conditions made it worthwhile. The products would only no longer be competitive with places that also treated their workers poorly so why should we support them? Seems strange to me that somebody so keen to allow freedom of movement in order to protect workers rights is happy to have them living in squalor and poorly paid so he can have cheap strawberries or whatever. Would be confusing for a stranger to read the last few posts and try and guess which one of us voted Tory and still thinks the Labour party are unelectable!
  13. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    I'd rather cater for the future of British youngsters than continue to increase the millions earned by shareholders using cheap EU labour. Of course training and apprenticeships are inextricably linked to freedom of movement within the EU. Even you cannot deny that training opportunities declined sharply with the increase of cheap trained labour from the former Eastern Bloc countries. They are now increasing again and when I say planned I mean actually written into the business plans for the near future as I provided the link to when you asked for just one single provable benefit of leaving the EU. Doom tomorrow and WW3 around the corner is the mantra of some remainers, nobody is fooled by it any more. Those particular vacancies that have in common poor wages and bad working conditions. Dread the thought that those companies might need to improve working conditions in order to attract staff and to the overall detriment of the shareholders. Bring back those lowly paid, willing to live in little better than pig sty conditions EU staff who are grateful for the work, whatever happens don't expect the EU to make things better for them in their own country.
  14. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    And therein lies the problem, you would rather cater to the minority that includes yourself than the majority who don't. The opportunity to work and train for a better future is still very important to the majority of British workers, far more important to the majority than jobs in the EU tourist industry. If we are dealing with facts then it has been proven by the referendum and the last GE that we should ignore opinion polls completely as they are very poor predictors of reality. Even then as E I Addio points out it is far from fact that the polls even show the result you claim. So yet again you choose to completely ignore the effects of Covid on business since Brexit because it doesn't suit your narrative. The fact is that many industries are planning very significant increases in Apprenticeship and training programs for the future because of Brexit, I posted the link to just some of those very recently. Not to mention that with near full employment as we have now how can there not be more opportunities for young people to work?
  15. Vince

    European Union - In Or Out?

    We were only just talking of generalities and opinion rather than fact! By election results following partygate prove that everybody is turning to Remain is laughable. Wonder how all those youngsters now doing training and apprenticeships, opportunities that just weren't available a couple of years ago feel about leaving the EU? I don't know but as you have absolutely no interest in asking any questions that don't suit your argument nor do you! It would seem reasonable to me to suggest that there are going to be a lot more youngsters who see opportunities open to them within their own country to learn a trade and work here than there are youngsters who believe their lives have been ruined by not being able to work in the EU without filling in forms first. I will point out that is not fact, just my opinion. The creation of more job training and apprenticeships for UK workers to cover jobs previously undertaken by EU workers is a proven reality though, it is certain to be a trend that will continue too as it needs to for businesses to survive. So we are back again to your completely unproven theory that all those wanting to leave the UK are dying off rapidly and all youngsters love the EU. I remember how some of you assured us that was the case previously and the GE would prove it. Seems more than a little unlikely to me that those youngsters are all EU supporters, in fact as the referendum and GE proved mostly they don't give it a thought although better job opportunities for them may change that.
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