Pirio Barre

Said years ago that the club needed to be in contact with the Commonwealth games legacy committee about assuring the future of the sport in (or around) Perry Barr. Don't know if this has happened. https://www.birmingham2022.com/about-us/our-purpose/our-legacy https://www.birmingham2022.com/about-us/our-purpose/our-legacy/full-list

^^^^^^^ it would be nice if possible to get Phillip wizzer Morris involved in the management.

Total agree And you should be proud of your record. I can only say I'm sorry for using the S word you most certainly are not. I guess when two people are so passionate about a cause they can miss that they are on the same page. Believe me no team on this island respects its ex and fallen military like HMFC. I wear the McCrae's Battalion poppy everyday at work.

I appreciate what you did for this country and the sacrifice you made. However, that makes you throw away comment about gas attacks even more outrageous. I'm a Heart of Midlothian supporter and now in a very very very small way co-owner of the club. In 1914 when top of the Scottish football league 16 Hearts players signed up to join the war effort. 7 of them died in conflict and many others suffered wounds that cut short their lives. So yes I get a little triggered when someone compares sporting injuries to attacks in WW1 trenches.

After the British Final you post this

Only just got this i thought "door pulls" was some new internet/text term used by young people. I spent all morming try to work what ii could mean. I really do

I'm loving you, Why post the above question if you Why respond to my comments if you And when someone perfectly reasonably asks you to back up your claim, you fall apart and turn to insults with the added classic This is a forum *mate* not a one way rant, and if you bring up a subject on a forum you must expect a response and not just try to shut it down when things get a little awkward. Again I ask, it would be nice if you could answer your own question and find out why there was a delay. If not, maybe you should just stop posting on forums.

No, the issue is, has the poster asked questions to find out why there was a delay rather than simply make assumptions on the internet. I'd like to know if the poster has asked any questions and what the outcome was. It so easy to go on forums and say so and so is to blame (in this case the banks or promotion) however you have to back this up with facts so I hope the poster takes time to find out the reason for the delay and has the courtesy to let us know

Always happy to help, However have you raised an interesting point. Have you contacted any of the people involved in your refund issues as I'm sure not only myself but many other posters on this forum would like to find out the outcome of your enquiries. Please keep us updated.

I booked tickets online for the Coventry meeting which was cancelled. I got my refund 3 working days later after the cancellation on the following Monday. You might want to contact your bank and ask about the delay or contact the Birmingham promotion or even Trybooking if bought through them. That's how I would go about things before posting random speculation on the internet.

Funny or not, JC has a net worth of over $50 million

Yes got the email (albeit could be up to ten days) it was good to get such a quick responce. Althought I was happy to let the club keep the money and then use the ticket for the restaging of the Coventry meeting or maybe another meeting later in season, kinda like back in the day with old raffle tickets they handed out on entry

So it has need to read all the recent post before posting myself Well at least the club will get £18.00 out of £19:05 i paid.

Anyone playing guess the attendance tonight needs to add me as a plus one. I bought a ticket online, however I can't be there as I've been asked to cover at work. And it's to late to find a guest replacement.

Speedway in the UK needs more purpose built tracks like the NSS. it would be great if Poole and Poole FC could work some thing out to have a multi purpose stadium on the site. If the football club seriously have ambitions to get into the league they may not like having the pitch so far away from the fans so some form of retractable/moveable seating on the straights may need to be incorporated. Even a basic stadium rebuilt would take at least 18 months mostly likely two years with the stadium being partly or fully out of action, which may mean a season or two racing some or most Pirates home meeting at the Isle of Wright or Eastbourne? However a finished multi purpose stadium with a designed track would be a game changer and worth the disruption. I guess it all about the ££££££'s and the willing of the local council.

A slick track Well, as a fan of the sport and no more than that, I call a slick track one with little dirt on it with only one racing line and after a few heats a blue groove starts showing, it could be said an over prepared track. One that doesn't challenge the riders or give entertainment to the fans. However that's just my take on a slick track, yours may differ. I get that it was the first competitive meeting on the track so they need to be conservative with the preparation and clearly nobody wants a dangerous track but also speedway isn't figure skating, one of the great enjoyments as a fan and I guess as riders is the unpredictability of tracks. The point I'm making is the track on opening night 2007 wasn't entertaining, it was dull to watch follow my leader rubbish, Which may have worked if it was a team meeting and Birmingham went on to win infront of 6000 people, As the meeting was hyped as the return of the Birmingham Brummies. However it turned out to be an evening of no team riding (because the was no team), an evening of very little passing, an evening interjected with a lot of people patting them selves on the back but ultimately missing the point on how to get new fans to support the team.

Slick track A slick track did for Birmingham back in March 2007 on the night of the rebirth. 6000+ in attendance expecting the “BRUMMIES ARE BACK” as it was promoted. However they ended up seeing a bunch of individuals (most new fans in the crowd had never heard of) play follow the leader. No Birmingham Brummies team to support, instead of leaving the stadium thrilled with seeing the home team winning many left thinking I have no idea what just happened, did Birmingham win?. I called it at the time and stand by it today, the choice to open with an individual meeting on the back of all the publicity and hype about the return of the Birmingham Brummies Team was shocking and totally destroyed any chance to gain new fans. The following week against Stoke was much better a comfortable team win in a Midlands derby, how pleased would the 6000+ fans have been to see that. Sadly the 6000 had become 2000 and the chance had been blown.

The area around the wheels is only going to get worse, either buildings are going to get flattened or some businesses are not going to maintain there buildings as they are only interested in the land that they are on. Because in about 7 to 10 years that land will be prime estate. There are already some big and ambitious plans for Digbeth/Bordesley and as the opening of HS2 get closer land prices will go through the roof. I work for a company that until recently was based in Digbeth but moved out due to being inside the Clean air zone however they have still kept ownership of the building in Digbeth, maybe looking to cash in later.

Only missed one meeting at the wheels (well 2 as it was a double header) the night before the Bradford world final. I remember the first few meetings in 1984, I didn't drive at the time so I had to find my way to the stadium from the train station. Honestly it was like some kind of assault course off of the krypton factor, lucky I was a lot younger and fitter back then.

Thanks for clearing that up Brian, I did mention it in another thread but I wasn't certain if it was still actively part of the planning approval.

If it is to be the end, wasn't there something in the original planning application / approval that the speedway track had to be removed and replaced with turf so the centre green of the greyhound track looked how it was in 2006? this may have been time limited so may not currently apply

Now having had some sleep I feel I can reflect on last night with clear and rational reasoning. All I know is that as a spectator I watched the first heat being won be a reserve in a very reasonable time and I never expected that 10 minutes later the meeting would grind to a halt. So with that in mind I can only concluded that last night summed up the problems we as a society are all facing, in as much that the mainstream media are constantly pushing a left-wing Marxist agenda and turning the millennial generation into a group that believe everything should be “just so” and how they “want it to be”, and if it isn't they will “scream and scream and scream” I'm of a generation who believes in “just get on with it” and enough with the jibba-jabba. You may consider that to be old fashioned thinking, however can I remind you that the first thing I did on getting home (early) last night was to put out the recycling a very progressive action. We all have to think of the children and the children's children and the Blue whales, what happens when the whales stop singing; what then?

As I posted even a billiard table of a track doesn't stop something else happening to turn speedway (Zzz) It's just always gone on. Also we can't forget that speedway is not a smooth velodrome it is ridden on different size tracks, different types of surfaces and in different weather. As a fan that's one of its great attractions and I would think as a rider too testing your abilities against other riders but also the track, every meeting and every race being a new challenge. And sometimes if you don't fancy it than so be it; you just have to back off and run a third or forth place and let the riders with the all-round skills and passion take the win. I've been to Berwick (not Shielfield) on a lovely clear day only to find from out of nowhere a underground spring had appeared under the track near the fence on one the straights, meeting abandoned. I've been to Berwick after heavy rainfall and a lot of the track had been moved up to the edges of the football pitch and if I remember correctly had even had white markings around it making the track only ¾ of its normal size on the straights and certainly not a billiard table but the meeting went successfully ahead. I've seen a 65-0 at Peterborough and a cup final at Coventry in shocking condition when Poole wanted out but the ref said get on with it and Poole from wishing to go home and pack there kit away, really did get on with it and turned the meeting around and won. Clearly I would never wish out and out dangerous track conditions on anyone, however the mind set of riders (management) really does come into play. All of which doesn't help Joe Public standing there thinking I've seem them ride in worse than this.

I was one of them that left after heat 4, well not straight after heat 4 as that would have been a strange thing to do. I left after the announcement of the track review, tonight is bin night and the prospect of wheeling out the recycling seemed more enticing then hanging around watching a tractor(s) for however long. This is by far not the first time time I've walked out early indeed on the reopening night of Perry Barr in 2007 I lasted till about heat 8 before jacking it in. That night they spent ages faffing around trying to get the starting gate to work and the track was so perfectly prepared it was like a billiard table (Zzz) I've walked out of Poole a couple of times the first being back in the days of the Poole Wildcats so its nothing new, and my first visit to the NSS (albeit for a colts meeting) last about 6 heats before I thought this is just boring and off I trotted.

For me i'll be staying at home because its a 400 mile round trip, i might (only might) get pinged and it maybe called off because of the weather. No sorry its not for that. I'll be at home with few brewskis watching the GP.