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European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
The reality of the UK's diminishing influence in the world... https://www.politico.eu/article/becoming-belgian-after-brexit/ -
European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
No blame on Stanley Johnson who's a Remainer, but what a hypocrite his son is after denying others the right to live in France... https://theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/20/pms-father-stanley-johnson-secures-french-citizenship They're laughing at you. -
Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?
Humphrey Appleby replied to jrs's topic in General Discussions
It's amazing how they banged on about 'taking back control' from 'unelected bureaucrats' and yet seem to be happily relinquishing control to erm...unelected bureaucrats. You really couldn't make that up... -
European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-incredible-shrinking-global-britain/ -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
Most of the civilised world has consigned the death penalty to history, yet this individual advocates it. Also another anti-gay bigot. These sorts of dinosaurs seem to be happy to apply draconian legislation to others, whilst not thinking it should apply to them. -
European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
This is how much the Tories actually care about Norn Iron... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/brexit/brexit-news/truss-made-turnips-in-truck-brexit-remark-about-ireland-1.4881846 The hysteronics are only to defect wider attention from the disastrous trade agreement they negotiated... -
European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
Was always a con job... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/19/public-duped-long-term-visas-foreign-nationals-40pc-since-brexit/#:~:text=The number of foreign nationals,according to a new study -
European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
As predicted... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-19/stagflation-shock-to-uk-likely-to-be-among-world-s-worst A trade war with the EU will only make things even worse. Meanwhile not looking good for a US trade deal either... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-us-trade-deal-protocol-b2083179.html -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
So Boris gets a token fine to mollify public outrage, whilst the rest of his staff carry the can. What a leader... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/fury-boris-johnson-partygate-fines-b2083085.html -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
Your MP is it? Also a jingoistic bigot who advocates being tougher on crime, and a Brextremist to boot... -
European Union - In Or Out?
Humphrey Appleby replied to The White Knight's topic in General Discussions
Another nail in the coffin for what was a successful UK business sector before Brexit... https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-tensions-mean-brits-wont-get-eu-science-cash-brussels-warns/ -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
No, it was not his job, nor that of any MP for that matter. The police, social services and CPS have that responsibility. If he was aware of things happening then he certainly had a moral responsibility to push those authorities into taking action, and as a MP would have more influence than most. But he has argued that he was not aware of the crimes beyond superficial knowledge or how widespread they were, nor how far they'd (not) been investigated by the responsible authorities. He subsequently said he wished he done more in light of the horrendous nature of what eventually came out, but is something different to the narrative constantly parroted by right-wing acolytes. You can take or leave his protestations - as a convicted fraudster and generally disreputable individual - but inaction is not actually a crime whereas being a perpetrator of a crime is. Who is defending Cyril Smith, but that happened years ago, he is long dead, and he also represented what is now a defunct party. How far do we have to go back here in order to point out that a Tory former-minister has been charged with rape and other offences, without whataboutery harking back to historic cases involving former Labour and Liberal MPs? -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
It would appall all decent people, and of course would be more appalling if Denis MacShane actually had anything to do with it. It's yet another of those things where acolytes of the right have twisted certain comments of his into a narrative that suggests he had full - let alone any - knowledge of the crimes and that he covered them up. At the end of the day, the responsibility and failure was on the part of social services and the police to have fully investigated and prosecuted such things. To be clear that even without the Rotherham case surrounding him, Denis MacShane is a pretty disreputable individual who should have no place in politics. However, this is continually used by right-wing acolytes as whataboutery to excuse the appalling behaviour of what is largely Tory MPs (and some former ministers as well) that is coming to light. And you can be sure that if it's coming to light now, it's been going on since time immemorial... And if there had been any sniff of a Labour MP being charged with rape, you could be sure one person on here would have been the first to bring it up - just for public interest reasons of course... -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
https://theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/28/is-there-no-end-to-tory-mps-sexual-misconduct -
Are We Seeing The Beginning Of The Demise Of The Tory Party?
Humphrey Appleby replied to steve roberts's topic in General Discussions
But a Labour MP ignored the grooming of 1400 girls, don’t you know…?