Humphrey Appleby

Those in Northern Ireland see the benefits of being in the Single Market, so makes you wonder why Boris continues to play his childish games… https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/support-post-brexit-trade-rules-grows-northern-ireland-poll-2022-06-29/

'Australia-style' trade deals that you can't even agree with erm... Australia... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/australia-trade-deal-brexit-climate-b2111184.html?r=15818

That's what they meant by 'taking back control'. No-one actually believed it meant more freedoms for British people, did they?

No more stupid than you derogatorily calling them 'dinghy divers'and also conflating them with illegal immigrants. You also appear to have defended the government's policy of sending 'illegal immigrants' to Rwanda, so I think it's a perfectly fair question of why you now think illegal immigrants should be used for fruit picking...

Don't you support the 'dinghy divers' being sent to Rwanda though? Do we own orchards there?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/06/27/michael-gove-one-man-economic-catastrophe/

Who'd have thunk it...? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/27/six-years-on-the-cold-reality-of-brexit-is-hitting-britain

Divorce in haste, repent at leisure… https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-britons-uk-eu-wrong-leave-polls-analysis-b1008770.html

Quite a good series to watch, with all the matches swinging one way or another. Difference between the teams was probably Root and Bairstow in the end.

444/3 in an ODI - Are England very good or Pakistan very bad?

There will always be a certain amount of residual unemployment, and it's not like there's an airport in every town or in particular in the areas of the country with the worst unemployment. Plus the pay probably isn't good enough to make it worthwhile or even affordable to move there. It's all very well saying pay more, but when airports pass on the costs to those customer, that will quite probably mean many customers will reconsider whether they're actually going to travel at all. Many regional airports in particular were already on the margins of existence even before COVID, and some have essentially gone out of business, so it really does become a zero sum game. Where I do agree with Vince is that training and supporting people in their training has been inadequate for years and under successive governments, and with the NHS and military for example that offer proper career paths, the opportunities have hugely fluctuated around government whims and spending cuts. And I'd also agree that better trained and qualified people should be better rewarded to encourage them to do it in the first place. Where I largely disagree with Vince is that this has anything to do with Brexit. Unemployment - despite the bravado of the Brexit Brigade - is now at it's highest level for 8 years which gives lie to the fact that foreigners were taking British jobs. With Europeans now substantially barred from coming to the UK and labour shortages everywhere, we should according to the Brexiteers be seeing both a jobs and pay dividend for locals, and yet unemployment is up and pay in real terms is down. There are of course some other reasons for this, but this merely reinforces the fact that labour shortages and pay is more complicated than the simplistic equation presented by the Brexit Brigade. It always assumed the Eastern European workers aren't in it for the long haul, but they also form relationships and it seems to me a lot decide to make their life in the UK. And it's not just about being prepared to work for less because in many cases they're working for the same money as locals - it's also about attitude and being prepared to work your up way from the bottom.

Farage was a bit of a Putin sympathiser of course...

Not sure what poor decisions they are. They've been hit the double whammy of COVID and now Brexit which makes recruiting difficult. There no doubt that airlines aren't the best employers in the world, but they're also key to a lot of other industries that are now also being screwed because of the problems. The biggest poor decision was voting for Brexit, the detrimental.effects of which we see every week now.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/tory-mps-deny-rumours-they-are-defecting-to-labour

Sure we were told that food standards wouldn't be comprised after Brexit... https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/brexit-food-standards-agency-government-b1008606.html

Well we must control 'oor borders' after all... https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/brexit-id-card-student-trips-b2110140.html

This is the promised 'sunny uplands'... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-27/britain-s-battered-economy-is-sliding-toward-a-breaking-point

It was always going to be load of crap as we pointed out on here even before Brexit happened and Johnson was in power. I'm pretty sure more than a few also told us how wrong we were, and were just scaremongering, but we've been pretty much proved right...

It doesn't matter whether some don't want to play the game - it's the way the world is going. The UK is also introducing an ETA for everyone that doesn't otherwise need a visa, although the UK one is even more of a rip-off than the EU one. Canada and New Zealand introduced something similar 2 or 3 years ago, and of course the US has had it for years. Frankly, I think a passport should be good enough especially as airlines and ferry companies collect this information in advance anyway, but it's ever more government control that people just seem to be sleepwalking into. Not really sure how the UK expects to police it though if travellers decide to fly into the Republic of Ireland and then just cross the Irish border into the UK.

Trading with the world was promised, wasn't it...? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-steel-eu-brexit-boris-johnson-b2109641.html

Whether there's a dedicated lane for British citizens has nothing to do with the fact you'll still need to pay for the ETIAS (which is essentially a visa however it's dressed up) to enter the Schengen Area (which is not only EU countries despite what you may have heard). Another wonderful benefit brought to us by Brexit voters...

Trouble is that it's just a bit of genealogical lottery to get back rights that all British citizens previously had before Brexit. When else in history have people voted to disadvantage not only themselves but their fellow citizens? Total madness...

Not only desperation, but of course the UK government is trying to find excuses to erode human rights in its own country... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-gulf-states-b2108051.html

She's not only incompetent, but a truly nasty individual. How she's still in office sums up the type of people who've taken over the Tory Party these days.

Pretty much sums it up, but astonishing that business owners would ever have been conned into voting for it...