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Done!

Thanks for the details re parking. I had wondered if I could park on the shopping centre as I do when I go to Perry Barr. Do you have to put something in the car window or just park?

What is the parking like at Leicester?

If Will clicks he should give you a great ride. Check what he did with NL Cradley over 8 years and what some of his ex riders are up to now. Great guy to boot. You can't keep him to yourselves tho' as we Midland 'Ommers need him too in the Trophy!

Superb meeting. Great between the top 4......................... Well worth the costs of the meeting to be honest if you came from Buxton or Cradley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps the time has come for the NL to become a semi pro 3rd Tier League and the teams (unknown to me) who cannot afford to be in it make a 4th Tier in the manner of the original Amateur League/Conference League was designed to do way back (1995ish) when teams like Buxton, etc were formed, around 23 years ago. Perhaps they could run 5 man teams and do double headers like the Plymouth/Kent model that were used for their Development League meetings so far this year with a mini Rider of the Night to end with (15 or so Heats). I am not saying anything against Jayne as I have great faith that the Buxton/Moss family tradition will prevail for a long time to come!

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If the 7.66 is correct it is the joke of the year in Speedway terms. Can someone now get Screeny, Hall, Stoney, Les Collins , Phil Collins to name but a few back in a 2017 team on the same figure???????????? The mighty Mark Robinson when he rode at #7 for Cradley in about 1990 had a 2.56 (approx.) average and was saddled with a 9 plus average in the 2011 NL and that stopped his comeback! How about low ability foreigners on the same 7.66 or there about assessed average like Rye House did back in the day when they forced non British riders being allowed in our 2nd Division and started the rot? I fear for the NL/CL as this could be the tipping point to a semi pro NL and a proper designated 3rd Division. I could go on but...................I hope Cook and Tatum are proud of the professional 'cheating' that they are doing. Rant over, back to the side lines I go!

Read it and cannot see that it is in any way legal! The other 11 NL teams should fight hard against it and stop it happening or it will be the death of the NL/CL as we know it. Gustix, correct me if I am wrong, but does this not smack what Romford Bombers did in 1969 when they signed Des Luckhurst but he had to come in on an very high 10 or low 11 point average and he improved on it in the old BL Div2?

I must say that Paul on a 7.44 is still way wrong! 1.4 * 3.91 * 2 less the allowance for injury/grass tracking is nearer to 11 than 7.44. He cannot ride over the weekend, from what I understand, as he has not been declared in a legal 1 to 7 for the 7 days before. Lakeside should be forced to keep him out 'til things are sorted by the BSPA otherwise we are going to have appeals for ages and meeting scores sorted out at a later date!

Have to ask and I have no complaints but what is Paul Hurry's average? I have difficulty seeing that is below Dave's. If Max Clegg's come in on his 2016 10+ average what should Paul's come in on? A multiple of his last Elite League average (3.91) If you just double it to get a PL average then do the same again to get a 2017 NL average I would have thought that he would be closer to 15 than 6.5, even after allowing for not riding for in a league for at least 5 years and gaining a legit % reduction. Just curious how it was calculated and why he is in but riders like Richard Hall & Harland Cook to name but a few are not? Any one know or can say?

Thank God that common sense will prevail on Friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF MBC can see sense for the Aces then WOT ABOUT DMB for Cradley??????????????????????????????????

I did not where to look to be honest and I have not the time to trawl pages. Just think that March is a bit late, as when other teams have had problems they were shut or were closed mid season and I do not want that to happen to Belle Vue. Perhaps the precedence set in 2011 when Peterborough and Coventry were admitted to the Elite League late set a precedence that could it be used again. Thanks for the info as that is why I asked the question.

Have to ask, but does anybody know of a team in any division that has been given this long to be in any League of any kind? I do not know of one and would have thought that the BSPA would have changed the League license to an OPEN LICENCE for common sense, financial & face saving! I have lost the will to live on this debacle weeks ago. Feel free to discuss my post, but I would NOT allow any BV team into any league 'til 2018 at the earliest after proving themselves like others have done in the past.

Have to ask, but does anybody know of a team in any division that has been given this long to be in any League of any kind? I do not know of one and would have thought that the BSPA would have changed the League license to an OPEN LICENCE for common sense, financial & face saving! I have lost the will to live on this debacle weeks ago. Feel free to discuss my post, but I would NOT allow any BV team into any league 'til 2018 at the earliest after proving themselves like others have done in the past.