Whisperer
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The continuing decline of Speedway
Whisperer replied to wealdstone's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
And if you were up in front of any of those names you shat yourself! -
You're right, he's full of rubbish
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Mike, A new Promotion at any club does not have a say until they have attended 3 AGM's
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Think you'll find the two ambulances are for tyre packing next meeting : )
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You're right in principle but if the circumstances that influenced you to join change dramatically and you haven't got a vote to position your objection there really are only two options. Shut up and put up or get out, unfortunately Rye have had to do both.
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Do the maths Steve, no doubling up, reduced number of non UK riders = 1 rider 1 team. If 16 clubs survive where are you going to get 112 riders for 7 man teams? Try 5 man teams it's nearer reality and with injuries and legitimate absences you're talking 4 + R/R or a rabbit to make up the numbers. Without being facetious I'm really surprised you're source hasn't leaked this one to you, maybe after Tuesdays showdown.
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The ideal scenario for those who want one big league in 2019, the sixty four thousand dollar question is which will be the next club to be exited. Lakeside or Peterborough? What about that club miles from anywhere in Berwick where the new promotion have sunk their heart, souls and money into saving the sport on Tweedside? It could be any other club but one thing's for sure there are more casualties to come.
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You're right it is possible but all of the "assets" within the control of the BSPA have to be liquidated to settle in house debts, a new promotion will have to deposit a bond and if they are unable to acquire the rider registrations then increase that bond accordingly. The new promotion is not guaranteed those registrations (highest bidder) and the external creditors may freeze ( through an Administrator) track and safety equipment ( Birmingham) until all debts are discharged in full or protected by the insolvency process. It's messy short term and admittedly there aren't that many out there who will want to buy air fences, rakes and dust. The biggest challenge I see is if a new promotion is able to occupy and run Speedway is the moto cross circuit if BMR Speedway does not fold the company not withstanding the ability to overcome the random decisions to force clubs off their agreed fixtures. They would lose all Saturday priority and have to race Saturday clubs off race day and with the mooted 1 big league which is likely to be a 16 club four team tournament what other nights will Rye be forced onto? Don't forget we are now in the middle of the "plans to secure the future of the sport"
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The BSPA contract holds the licensed Promoters personally responsible for in house debts, if they don't like it they shouldn't sign it.
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And no doubt Scunthorpe will have the best choice of guests they've had all season?
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Hello, is there anybody there?
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when you can open? and close ffs!
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Read the week before last's comic, don't think they're in to dodging bullets but you're right the management Committee are bringing the end closer
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Buster Chapman and the Secret Society
Whisperer replied to Daytripper's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
For many years the members of the BSF have never been united just like the BSPA. Now is the greatest opportunity to unite and send the current Management Committee the message they don't want to hear, trust me it's not all Buster as a unit they have effed up big style, it's time to go. Worst ways the SCB could run it short term and do a better job. -
How are sales of the Gerhardt engines going?
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2010/11 the beginning of the end
Whisperer replied to Booey boy's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Yes but that doesn't mean they were right or wrong -
Lots of speculation on here but in simple terms a club that is annulled cannot stage speedway until all the liabilities have been discharged and then they have to re-apply for membership which could demand a greater bond. If they sell the club all of the in house debts have to be settled before ownership can be transferred and the new promotion stage speedway, the money would go through the BSPA. The BSPA have the right to sieze the rider registrations, utilise the bond and withhold any monies due to BMR to raise sufficient funds to meet their in house debt. BMR cannot legally stage speedway without a track licence and approval from the ACU. The ACU were constitutionally given legal right to control all motor cycle sport (speedway too) in the UK and choose to delegate their responsibility to the SCB which is renewed by contractual agreement on a very regular timescale. Anyone who chooses to run speedway on an unlicensed circuit controlled by unlicensed people are outside the protection of the ACU and FIM which in effect means that no ACU/FIM licence holder can compete or officiate at or on an unlicensed facility. All motorcycle disciplines affiliated to the ACU in the UK are protected by the off road motor sport regulations which exempts competitors and officials from motoring and construction and use regulations. As a ridiculous example of this if an ambulance is called to a track to an injured competitor the Police don't have to turn up and carry out an investigation for offences nor do they give a ticket to your number 1 because he hasn't got lights, brakes tax, insurance, mot etc. The temptation is to mock but it is the RAC/ACU who lobbied Parliament years ago to secure immunity from prosecution for motor sport competitors. This is slightly different in Scotland where the Police may show up to satisfy themselves that it is in fact a motor sport event. The regulatory powers of the SCB/ACU were defined following the Shawcross Report and are enshrined in the ACU Constitution for track racing so BMR need to find a compromise but then again the current Management Committee don't give a rubbish about legality or constitutions.
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Not if your looking for guests every week and can't get them on a Friday, oh and your number 1 is going to miss most of the season!
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I can think of at least half a dozen capable business/marketing oriented individuals that were driven out by their colleagues. Colleagues who were so set in their ways they were horrified to hear and have proposed new ideas and initiatives, colleagues who stood up and marched out of the room when changes were being debated. Some stayed but lowered their ethics and integrity to the level of the majority and only one has managed a balance between a lack of integrity and local marketing initiatives to maintain a steady business. Nobody has ever invested more money promoting a club and benefiting the sport than Rick and Julie yet the way they were treat was appalling.
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It might not be a bad idea to talk to some former Promoters to find out why they got out, oh and how hard they were shafted by their colleagues.
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I've not checked Belle Vue's fixtures but the other 3 clubs have had their Fridays binned, the Official SGB website has those fixtures removed from next week onwards
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Brothers in arms, and that's just what you know about. This is undoubtedly the poorest performing Management Committee in decades.
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An enlarged Go Kart track !
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Rye House today, Workington, Peterborough and Lakeside next? Who knows just wait for the BSPA's next attempt to close a club or three, how about cancelling some of their fixtures for starters?
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apology to workington speedway .
Whisperer replied to jenga's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
I'm beginning to think that Jenga and Steve Whitehead are one and the same!