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  1. Posted

    44 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

    It's always a damned if you do/don't scenario....as a kid I'd have been gutted...but, as an 'old-git', financial costs, plus entertainment value are more prevalent, so 'caution' always wins the day for me.

    A nostalgic memory....

    As a 7 year old (1974) my dad took me to watch B'ham away at Barrow...(mid-week- 350 mile round trip) only for it to be called off when we got there ! :D

    Madness/passion/dedication....take your pick! :D

    I think we've all done something like that. In the very early 1960's 4 of us drove a similar distance  in a very ancient Austin Sheerline which did about 20mpg to Poole for meeting , only to be greeted at the carpark entrance by an attendant who explained the meeting had been called off.:)

    As for madness/passion/dedication? I would say all three.:D

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  2. Posted

    51 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said:

    I'm not sure that Mr Tolley is accruing debt: from what I've gleaned, he is using personal wealth to meet financial outlay which is needed after income streams. If that's the case, the question of how far he is able and prepared to go with that operating model, I suppose only he will know. I think there's a limited lifespan for the stadium being available anyway so this is possibly a one-off season (or two?). But  I don't read Speedway Star, so there's probably more to it than this?

    I think he's on record in stating that he has two years left at Perry Barr, the owners have said the dogs will be going to the new track in Wolverhampton  by the end of the year & then they will be planning their next moves to develope the site for other use. Tolley has also said that he needs to see a marked increase in attendances this year, if not next season won't happen.

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  3. Posted · Edited by Dave Jones

    20 hours ago, Najjer said:

    Rumour that Milik has already gone - any truth in that?

     

    11 hours ago, Sargent10 said:

    No you didn’t ask a question you made a statement end of, total nonsense as always, your not even a Birmingham supporter just someone who seems to like to stir up controversy, if you don’t have concrete evidence why would you seriously put such rubbish???? Go back and comment on your own team, if you have one and leave this particular section for fans of Birmingham, thank you, I think that’s fair enough, don’t you 

    Did you see the ?symbol at the end of Najjer's post?  Perhaps it would be an idea if you checked out its meaning.

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  5. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Aries said:

    That still doesn’t make it good value Dave which ever way you slice it. As you say some want to watch who just can’t get to the meeting for whatever reason so have little choice. For some 15 quid is a drop in the ocean and will think nothing of it and just pay it, none of that still makes 15 quid for a pre-season filler for two hours value for money. Some get Eurosport free with their TV packages, but a lot don’t. But you can sign up for Discovery plus on one of their cheaper packages for £6.99 a month, during the speedway season you’ll get a GP or two, and a couple of Premiership meetings plus any other sport on there that tickles your fancy for the entire month. And that’s without the other channels that come with it that may or may not be of interest. Now that IS value for money and makes 15 quid for one warm up filler seem a bit bonkers. 
     

    It’s all down to personal choice at the end of the day, you can either pay it or don’t that’s not the debate. Of course the other side of the coin is BSN have to earn enough to make the stream worthwhile for them to do in the first place and I hope they made enough to at least make their efforts worthwhile. 

    Well yes quite possibly, but in my case , to watch the meeting last night I had two options 1 travel by car at a high cost for the evening,  2 pay £15 and watch from my armchair . For me it represents good value It's not something I would do regularly but as a one off I have no complaints.

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  6. Posted · Edited by Dave Jones

    23 minutes ago, Aries said:

    Those trying to to justify the price as “decent value”’come on, at least be honest. You were happy to pay for it because you can afford it and you love your speedway, but good value it isn’t. People also need to stop comparing to prices at the track, totally different experience being there as we all know. 
     

    I pay 14.99 to stream all the Sky sports channels for the month on NOW, now that it decent value compared to the same price for 2 hours of a glorified practice session warm up meeting. 

     

    13 minutes ago, Pinny said:

    Exactly.

    regardless of what anybody says or thinks , charging 15 quid for that is robbery. Same as Leicester charging 12 quid for a league match. Its not value for money at all.

     

    some people maybe happy paying it , and good on them,  but don't come on here saying its great value . It isnt. 

    There can be many reasons why folk consider it value for money. Some may not be able to travel for various reasons , work , health , cost etc. for those £15 is an excellent deal i would suggest

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  7. Posted

    5 minutes ago, iainb said:

    As a cost cutting measure have you thought about leaving the wife at home? :D

    I've just totted up my costs for this meeting at £56.76... I wish I hadn't! So yes add another £25 and I can see where you're coming from. Arguably the line-up for this meeting is as good as you're going to see in this country this year, the 6 rider final is truly spectacular to watch and as comfortable as watching it from the home can be, you can't beat live Speedway!

    Horses for courses though, I was able to travel up there at the time I wanted and on my own.

    I did consider  leaving her at home but i didn't dare suggest it:D

    I really like the Belle Vue track & stadium & the trip up there through the peaks is a lovely drive in daylight hours, but i find the return at night very demanding on what are mostly twisty unlit roads.The alternative is a longer journey via the m6 & A50/A500 across to the east mids, a journey with the inevitable delays for road works /closures causing a much longer journey time.

    Last night I watched the speedway, then watched the first episode of Coma on Channel 5 which had been recording & was " tucked up" in bed by 11.00 pm:)

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  8. Posted

    53 minutes ago, skydog said:

    Also what no one is mentioning is that if your whole family are Speedway fans, you are only paying the £15 once for all of you. People are forever moaning about what it costs to take a family, so this is surely a huge saving?

    Exactly , I purchased my first BSN stream last night £15 for the two of us. Compare this to the cost of a 180 to 200mile round trip , entrance tickets, car parking, fuel , & probably a light meal somewhere , that would see the evening cost well overv £100 for myself & the wife.

  10. Posted

    7 minutes ago, Skodaman said:

    Unfortunately, a new modified planning application is an option that BE can use!!!

    I think we all understant that is a possibility, & as the latest update states the group have"considered their strategy under every likely circumstance". However you view the situation there can be no doubt that the group have performed a minor miracle getting us this far, with huge support from the council, MP's , the residents of the local area, &supporters from UK and futher afield and deserve massive credit for what has been achieved to date.

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  13. Posted

    1 hour ago, silverrocket said:

    From the local paper,they can appeal but it has to be for legal reasons,They have six weeks to do so.

    In the video Jeff Davies does state that the owners could go to the High Court if there was anything legally wrong with the government inspector's report, but the SCS group had read it & that they couldn't see any issues.  

    One member of the SCS group works in planning & obviously knows his way round the system, so we can only keep everything crossed & see what happens next.

  14. Posted

    8 minutes ago, jrs said:

    Thanks Dave for posting that video, Jeff deserves some serious award for his dedication along with many others in the fight for Brandon. It’s heartwarming  to see the little men win the battle with a Goliath..

    On a personal note , my back straight  spot sounds like it’s still. In decent  nick.  

    I was always a Rugby bend viewer, but i would be more than happy to make that a" back straighter" if the opportunity should arise.:)

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  15. Posted

    5 hours ago, mikebv said:

    As most of us will know, the latest ruling is still a long, long way from Cov coming back, but surely it does offer some leverage which could see then back in the sport? 

    As the council are 100% supportive, as seen by their actions so far, and the company obviously need the land to build their houses on, could it now be the time to get a compromise of another site, funded by the company, and allowed to be used by the council? 

    Surely there must be some suitably sized brown field site somewhere within the locale, which could be initially developed along the Somerset, Workington lines just to get Speedway back? 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvapQLnPRiY

    Here is a reason why your suggestion should not be considered Just watch the emotion from Jeff Davies in his interview & then  consider the support from thousands of people from all around the UK & Europe for retaining the stadium. Also consider the huge support from the local residents of the area around the stadium who voted heavily for it to remain when a survey was carried out. Indeed when the fund raising appeal to help with the cos tof the SCS group obtain a legal representative for the inquiry was opened there was  a large contributution made by the residents of the properties immediately next to the stadium. That is an indication of the level of support this fight has.

    Developers always use the same tactics when they aquire land without planning & usually the councils roll over , in this case they haven't & I say well done to them for fighting this out.

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  16. Posted

    2 hours ago, R87 said:

    And what about residents who've moved their since 2016?  I doubt they'll be over the moon about the prospect 

    Looking at the content on your profile over the last few months, I must say you come acros as a really miserable guy..

    Is there anything that makes you happy in life?

     

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  17. Posted · Edited by Dave Jones

    2 hours ago, R87 said:

    Sadly this really changes nothing.  Brandon Estates still own the site so little doubt they'll try again and again.  Might take 10-15 years, but they'll get pp in the end.

    Thanks for the cheerful contribution.

  19. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Wolfsbane said:

    If we ever get back on track I wonder what this could mean for us. Pete isn't getting any younger and it would be a very Wolves thing to do for Chris to step into his shoes:unsure: 

    Brummies need a marquee signing IMO.

    I've just been looking at some pics of a  a very happy & smiling Chris Adams. He must take after his mom.:D

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  20. Posted

    5 minutes ago, The H Man said:

    To be fair Dave the set up nearly worked as only the golden tac rule stopped the club winning the grand final.  

    Fair enough, I must say however that  I don't find Sam inspirational in any way , but I do hope the Brummies make a success of next season . The current owner deserves that for his continued financial commitment to the club.

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  21. Posted · Edited by Dave Jones

    12 hours ago, orion said:

    If this team.was not bad enough .they put Sudden 'stick a fork in it "Sam as the team manager.  

    Absolutely, he was a good rider but that was the limit of his skills . His time at Reading certainly wasn't what you would describe as thrilling.:)

  22. Posted

    13 minutes ago, Grachan said:

    I really don't know how to feel about that statement. The obvious, first reaction is to ask myself if I trust Clark Osbourne and Terry Russell and the obvious thought is to doubt them.

    But, why would they put out a statement like this if it isn't true? Surely they wouldn't build people's hopes up like this just for their own means. Would they? Osbourne might, but would Russell? Surely he, at least, would think about how fans would feel about that.

    I guess we'll have to wait and see if anything comes of it. Don't forget, after all, that land was secured for a new Reading stadium too, but it as never built.

    If it happens, though, what is this "45 minutes from Swindon" thing all about? I live in Newbury. It used to take 30 minutes to get from there to Blunsdon. And Newbury is hardly Swindon. It's more Reading territory than Swindon. Add another 15 minutes on the motorway and you're at Theale roundabout - which is pretty much Tilehurst.

    I will take some positives from this statement being released, but I'm far from convinced yet that anything will come of it. If it does, I hope it's east of Swindon rather than west!

    I would love to think this was positive news, but I can't help thinking that this very same Clarke Osborne was speaking in support of the housing developers at the inquiry re the planning application for Brandon Stadium  recently & was doing his best to convince the inspector that speedway had no future  should not return to the stadium & housing was the best plan .Hardly the action of someone is planning to build a new stadium on the outskirts of Swindon I would say.

  23. Posted

    5 hours ago, OveFundinFan said:

    If you don’t mind me asking, what do you get in that package and what do you pay?

    I have a BT broadband pack (have a landline too) and it costs just over £30per month, 74mbs.  12 months ago I was paying £62pm which included tv and sport that gave me MotoGP.  TV pack was rubbish and paying for sport when all I watched was MotoGP (BT had lost the speedway GP contract couple year ago) was way too much monthly, so it went.  
    What I find ridiculous is that you have a 2 year contract that if you want to get out of it BT can charge you the remainder of the contract, yet they can put up the monthly fee every 12 months by a large amount…and it’s all approved.  We are in “rip off Britain”.

    It's not just BT either they're all at it . I have had a Virgin package for a few years now which gives me fast broadband, landline, tv with BT sports , Sky sports, & Eurosport.I have always managed to negotiate an exellent price for my package each time I have renewed  . This time round , just after i had renewed I had a message stating that they were increasing my deal by£21.50 per month & in new contracts from May 24 they would be increasing payments by RPI + 3.9% if i remember , also there would be no longer be any option to leave penalty free if i didn't like the deal. A phone call & a few pertinents comments got my £21.50 monthly increase removed for the remainder of this contract fortunately.

    There is pressure being exerted in higher places to get these mid contract price rises stopped I do know, but if it doesn't change I won't be using Virgin next time round..

  24. Posted · Edited by Dave Jones

    12 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

    Whilst in no way condoning  the actions of Richie Worrall, the behaviour of Mr Vatcher doesn';t surprise me at all.

    A guy with no particular skills arrived on the speedway scene at Arena Essex  (or Lakeside whatever it was called at the time) and contributed little to the team as assistant TM. Not seen what he adds to the British Speedway scene tbh.

     

    I would agree with that, he comes across as a guy with very limited capabilities & he should be nowhere near the job he has. The stuff he puts out for for public consumption makes the SCB appear very amateurish .

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