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  1. FenTiger666

    Cameron Heeps

    Cant say all riders not on load but its a fact that Halsey, Baseby and Blackbird are Ipswich assets. The paperwork signed received by the BSPA was on Ipswich headed paper and confirmed the three above were to be transferred to Ipswich, two from Poole and one from Kings Lynn. Also Adam Portwood has, apparently written on Facebook last night he is the new Number 6 for the Fen Tigers. If that means he is replacing Nick Laurence what does that mean for Cameron Heeps ???
  2. FenTiger666

    Cameron Heeps

    Sorry but Kevin Jolly is the reason we have the Fen Tigers this season and i dont think he is gettig anywhere near the creidt he deserves, and its Michael and Nikki Lee who do most of the work behind the scenes. Chris Louis is just picking up the riders for Ipswich which is his right if he paid the transfer fees, the question is did he? I have no problem with Ipswich, I just dont support them, and I am very pleased to see the good crowds at Mildenhall this season and the work the new promotion are doing but they wont be around for ever (although I hope for many years to come) so Mildenhall needs to build up its own rider assets to make it a viable proposition for someone else to buy in the future. We all saw what happened when the Kings Lynn promotion bought/sold the club
  3. FenTiger666

    Cameron Heeps

    As a Fen Tigers fan who doesnt also support Ipswich all im interested in is the Fen Tigers. If Heeps signs he will sign as an asset of Ipswich so this doesnt benefit the Fen Tigers at all. Be interested if the Mildenhall SMS people give anything to Heeps before we find out if he can ride for Mildenhall. If they do, and he doesnt ride, then why are SMS Mildenhall giving money to help Ipswich. Out of interest the Mildenhall promotion never confirmed what happened earlier this season when Halsey, Blackbird and Baseby were all announced as full transfers. Yes they were, they were transferred to Ipswich and are Ipswich assets not Mildenhall assets
  4. Didnt read your original post Mr McCaffery, if you have something to say and you truly believe what you are saying, have the conviction to say it and stick to it, dont change it, it underminds your posting. For the record I have not been sniping at all, I have just been giving my opinions which I am totally at libility to do under the fules of this forum. I have also not threatened to walk away, as a fan I have walked away due to the goings on over the last couple of months. As a fan it is up to me who I support and I cannot support anything that has occured in recent months. This is not about me im just one fan, no one is bigger than the club, this is about the long term future of the Fen Tigers as that is all that matters. I have concerns and have voiced them. However in the spirit of Christmas, with no amendments required I will no longer post my thoughts on this subject
  5. A Merry Xmas to all Fen Tigers fans hope you have plenty of ribbons on your tree this festive season
  6. The only thing I am obsessed with is that the Fen Tigers cannot afford to fold mid season again, or run an uncompetitive team for a season. With EL racing at Kings Lynn and hopefully Peterborough, and PL racing every Thursday at Ipswich I fear for the future of the Fen Tigers if someone thinks they can run at West Row on £1300 per meeting rent and yet again we have the quote that everything is there and ready at West Row ready to run speedway. The simple facts are, unless a whole new set of gear has been bought since last summer, that is far from the truth. Also no one in their right mind would say that £1300 is the market rate for renting a track for speedway in 2011, especially at NL level, and it is only for the track as the stadium keeps all the food and bar revenue itself. The speedway promotion only makes revenue on race days through people paying at the gate. Check out other threads and promoters comments on rent, they are going down due to the current climate. The gear is old, breaks down frequently, there is no fence, and very few trackstaff left who know how to put it up safely. I hope the stadium is not expecting their manual labour staff to the job, if they do I fear for rider safety which is always a concern at West Row with the alcove behind the fence. Of course there is also the issue of the potential new promoter getting a licence which may not be a foregone solution, although with the BSPA nowadays Arthur Daley and Del Boy would be deemed "fit and proper". Lets hope you get competitive racing all season, for the whole season at West Row in 2011.
  7. SimonB - I do not have to wait for the announcement, I know who it is and have therefore made my decision. My problem is that I feel that the Fen Tigers are heading for another disaster. Word was out yesterday that a full announcement was going to be made, now it seems that all that has happened is that a new owner has verbally agreed to Dave Coventrys rent demands. Hope this guy has deep pockets, he's going to need them and Fen Tiger fans had better get used to alot of these false dawns and promises. No doubt it will be spun by some people that its sensible for the new owner to keep everything under wraps until everything is signed and sealed but in that case why is he going round telling people he has bought the club, speedway is a very small community. Hope for the fans sake this is not another false start, because its the Fen Tigers fans I feel sorry for. And no, NorwichKev there is no bad blood with Dave Coventry, but I have an issue with the way the BSPA have left this to him and how he has handled the whole situation. One thing I am sure we all agree on, and dont want to happen again, is that the Fen Tigers can ill afford to have another bad promotion running the club who cannot afford to continue with it, I cannot see it surviving another fiasco and feel it is heading that way. Just my opinion, I hope for all Fen Tigers fans I am wrong.
  8. Well the news is out on Twitter. New promotion has agreed terms with Dave Coventry and full announcement will be made in Speedway Star Thursday !!! Be interesting to see if the BSPA deem this new promotion to be fit and proper because the way this has been handled has been a disgrace. Any betting on it being Dave Coventry/an ex promoter/an ex rider/an ex manager. Interesting that one of the above has been speaking to riders over the last 2 days offering them a contract before they even own the licence. Another case of the lunatics running the asylum at West Row again in 2011. Thats it, Im done with the Fen Tigers
  9. Same question to you then SimonB. Do you honestly think that a speedway promotion can just turn up with a suitcase and run speedway at Mildenhall, with all the issues with the track, tractors, fence, pits etc and would you now pay £1300 per meeting to promote at Mildenhall in the current climate ?? Await your considered response.
  10. Hi NorwichKev As you say this is a debate, certainly no arguments from me I just feel differently to some of you, so just posting my thoughts and here are some thoughts on your posts (hopefully not too negative, just different). 1)Dave is the only one who is washing his dirty linen in public by having a pop at one the possible promotions in the speedway star. As stated they put in a bid in Octoberto the BSPA (ie to the correct people) and have never gone public with that even during the debacle with Tony Dart when alot of damage was being done. Clearly Dave Coventry does not see these people as his favourites to take over, probably because as businessmen they know the rent wanted is too high. 2)Keyboard warriors are two a penny but when you contact him and he doesnt reply what can you do? 3)Agree but £1300 per meeting is not sustainable for speedway at Mildenhall. Thats a fact and was proven last season, it finished the previous promotion. 4)Appreciate that, and sure SMS will do something similar, just hope it goes to speedway and not stockcar costs. 5)Good to hear, although people saying they will bring in money and actualy doing it are two different things. As with 4 hope money goes to speedway. 6) We will see but as I stated before Dave made his views clear on riders at the SMS meeting and in the speedway star. He thinks promotions will dictate pay and there will be many spare riders left they will do anything to ride for a team. Really ?? the last time we did that you were there, the infamous last PL season, do you want to see that again ?? You mention the GRA and that goes back to my original issue with all of this. At every other club the BSPA decide if the promotion are fit and proper first (or at the same time) as the rent is discussed. This time the BSPA seem to have left the decision totally to the stadium owner only, who has no background in speedway, so in the future the GRA could make a decision on whether a speedway club gets a sensible promotion or not. Its a very dangerous precendence that has been set, and didnt need to happeen if the BSPA had followed their own rules. One final thing, when you sang the praises of Dave Coventry you didnt mention anything about my comments about the state of the tractors etc that are supplied to the speedway promotion etc. You have been around long enough to have seen the many issues at the track. Are you seriously saying that you agree with Dave Coventrys comments that a promoter can turn up with a suitcase and run speedway at West Row for £1300 per meeting?? If he generally believes this, im sorry, but I have no faith in anything he says !! Everyone seems to think Dave Coventry is the only answer, personally I dont believe he is, although he is key if he can work with others (but can he as he seems to have set himself up as the only saviour of the club, and dont forget he is only half of RDC promotions, and the other half, his brother cannot stand speedway) but whichever way you cut it, his expectations on the rent are too high in the current climate.
  11. Some very interesting posts since my last one. PhilK - Excellent post as always. The key is promotion and getting out in the community as you say. The problem is Dave Coventry thinks this can be done at the last minute and they will come. Sorry but thats naive to say the least. If you shut mid season you have alot of bad feeling in the fanbase and you need to do more promotion not less. Also completely agree about KL and Ipswich fans, they have alot to look foward to in 2011 and in very difficult times I cannot see them paying to see a Fen Tigers team put together with any riders not picked up by other clubs at the last minute. Dave Coventry has already quoted in the Speedway Star that there will be more riders out there than team places and you can see this thinking. He will put together a team on the cheap with riders left over. The last time that happened was our last PL season and we all know what happened then !! SimonB - With your knowledge of the club and your SMS involvement if you believe Dave Coventry will be the next promoter then we need to listen to that. Personally I think, although it will look good on paper, it will not work and in the long run Dave Coventry promoting the Fen Tigers is not the answer. Semion - Re the rent, you are spot on. Workington have negociated a rent of £850 which is a 40% drop but the stadium owner knows that a regular £850 is better than two months of full rent and then nothing. Unfortunately Dave Coventry sees it differently. After what happened last season has he not learnt anything. Finally my posts are not a personal dig at Dave Coventry/RDC the stadium owners, I completely agree that he needs to do whats best for his business, of course he does but after reading his comments in the Speedway Star a couple of weeks ago about the fact any new promotion could "walk in with a suitcase and everything else is there for them" has to be the most laughable statement I have ever read. Anyone who goes to speedway at Mildenhall knows that they have to work with a number of major issues at every meeting just to be able to start a meeting. From what I understand there is currently no fence, we have all seen the tractors break down on a regular basis, the start gates often break down and track staff walking around the track picking up bits from the track 10 mins before a meeting is due to start. All that for £1300 per meeting, as quoted by Dave Coventry in the Speedway Star, your having a laugh !! As I have said before I can see him promoting, if thats the word, with an ex rider/manager. I pray I am wrong and can continue to watch my beloved Fen Tigers again in 2011 for a whole season but the news coming out of West Row does not fulfill me with hope.
  12. No, Dave Coventry critised these businessmen in the Speedway Star because they wanted a number of meeings with him, and that is the professional way to do business. What the hell is the point of the BSPA giving the licence to someone who doesnt know how to run a business, and if you accept the amount of rent Dave Coventry wants, you are no businessman and you dont need to put the sarcastic ' ' around businessmen, these guys goes know what they are doing. What would you rather have, promoters who know how to run a business (and that includes reaching an agreement on a sensible rent) or someone that Dave Coventry can get to pay £1300, and then for how long - 2 months and then the Fen Tigers disappear again. Maybe the post under yours is the solution, get the licence first and then move the Fen Tigers to another track !!! After all the important thing here is the Fen Tigers, not the stadium.
  13. To true and Dave Coventrys latest comments don't help. If 3 to 4 businessmen want to have detailed meetings with him then that is a good thing, its called carrying out due diligence to make sure everything is as it should be, and he's complaining about them. I would have thought that having 3 or 4 businessmen in charge of the Fen Tigers would be better then one fan, as with the last promotion, but as businessmen as I would assume they also dont want to pay the totally unwarranted rent demands that Dave Coventry has so that's why he is not willing to back their proposal with the BSPA, which has been with the BSPA since October - yes that's correct Fen Tigers fans, there has been a business proposal to buy the Fen Tigers licence with the BSPA since October and they have done nothing with it !!!! If they have pulled out due to all the delays, and the lack of any response from the BSPA for over 2 months who could blame them. Looks like Dave Coventrys wishes will take precedence over what is best for the Fen Tigers, what's the betting the new promotion will be another ex-rider or manager trying to run the club instead of a business taking it over.
  14. You cannot run a professional speedway club, even in the NL, if you wait until January to decide what you are doing. Dave Coventry has been in the press over the last couple of weeks talking about how the next promotion will need to be very professional and I completely agree but waiting until all your competition have spoken to the best riders before you even start is not professional. Also with the club closing mid season, there is a MAJOR piece, of promotion that needs to take place with the local community, in fact it should have started already. If any new promotion think they can pick up the riders that other teams dont want, and start promoting in February they are going to be in for one heck of a shock. And the stadiums future is a smokescreen if they use it for any of the above, Dave Coventry has already said the result is certain, and the person who brought it has left the area anyway. Mildenhall needs to be run by businessmen as a business, not by ex riders who think they can run a club with no business experience. Finally I dont see Peterborough moving, as Neil Watson says, they have a track already.
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