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As stated the article only says MF thinks he would ride for someone else in the UK NOT that he definitely would ride................and that did not come from Chris himself who has stated many times he has no interest in racing for any other team in the UK.................what part of that do you not understand So no we are not wrong it is your misinterpretation of the facts...............nothing new there where you and Poole are concerned............. RP

Going back to what Game On posted its says that he 'thinks' he would sign for someone else if he could not ride for Poole...............that does not mean he would necessarily................. To be fair I have not seen that article before so cannot comment any further................... RP

I am not getting uppity about it.................I have never seen Chris say that anywhere in the past.............only that he will only ever ride for Poole in the UK................Darcy on the other hand did say if Poole could not accommodate him then he would consider elsewhere............... RP

Funny he has reiterated several times he will only ride for Poole in the UK..................personal choice just as it personal choice to do the job that you do.............. Also Funny how Jason Doyle allegedly told Swindon to shove it yet he is back there again this season.................. And your proof Holder junior is riding for Poole next year is where????????????? RP

That was my point exactly............... RP Not just fixture schedules.....................most riders have a life outside the sport and family commitments..............

I hope you are not including me in that comment because I am no fair weather fan................and I am totally aware that some riders may not want to ride for Poole but as I said some may have chosen at the time not to come to Poole because of other commitments not because they don't want to ride for Poole it could be that at the time they could not commit............... You say about Cook loving Belle Vue which is fair enough and there is no problem about wanting to ride for a particular club and no other............Holder has always said it is Poole or no one in the UK............... I have watched Poole for the last 40 years through the good times and the bad and trust me there have been some very bad times.............but that does not mean I want them to win the league year in year out....................I could not care less if we never won the league again though I am proud of what we have achieved over the years when we have done well.................as long is the racing is good and safe is that what matters more??????????? Of course it is.............reaching the play offs and winning the league are always a bonus but its not the end of the world if we don't............... RP

Does it occur to you that they could have declined because of other commitments...............not just because it was Poole that approached them............... RP

All teams have the same rules to work to.............they were not designed to favour any team and anyone who thinks that is totally wrong............... RP

Ah lowering the tone by dragging me into something that has nothing to do with me.................. As I have said before unless they publish the so called list and the criteria used to meet it then there are going to be continual arguments about it................saying that even if it was published there would be more arguments as to who and who should not be on it................ Hey here is an idea............what about taking a riders combined average over the 2014 and 2015 season and using that to calculate who should be on there whether they rode one season or both....................since so many people are incensed about Buzz not meeting the criteria............... Remember its not Poole who created the rule..............all promoters work to the same rules its just some use them better than others.............. RP

Since when did he ride in the NL..............has to be an NL rider................. RP

As I said it is the fault of those who made the rules and decided who should meet what criteria they set............. One other question however and this is for SCB................you keep saying about Danny King being on this so called list..............if you have seen it (and I know you posted what you thought it should be) would you care to tell us who else is on there and what the criteria is.............. RP

Re read it.......................what I am saying is that everyone is saying that Davey Watt should be a second string despite attaining a 7.19 average yet are yet the same people are saying Buzz should be a heat leader despite having a 6.48 average which was attained two years ago.................if you take Clive's point into account that Davey was a number one in 2014 and spent part of last season at heat leader at various times then sorry it should be the other way round............ If they are taking averages from 2014 season for riders who did not ride here last season then surely the averages of those who did ride here in 2014 should also be taken into consideration.............. Unless they ever publish the criteria we will never know how are why certain riders are on the so called list and why some or not..........either way if the list is published then there are going to be people who think certain riders should not be on there and some that are not should be........... FFS get over it.............if Buzz does not meet the criteria then its not Poole's fault it is the fault of those who made the rules.............. RP No ambition?????????????? Never heard so much rubbish in my life.................. RP

Ummmmmm I was not................no one knows what the criteria is for the heat leader list just that Buzz is not on it.................I was just pointing out that why should Buzz be on the heat leader list when Davey has a higher average.............there are a lot of inflated averages because of the way the rides worked out last year but that does not mean that someone with average of 6.48 should be on the heat leader list any more than someone with a 7.19 average should not regardless of how they attained it................ Oh someone please publish the criteria..............but even if the list is published people are going to argue over who is on there that should not be and who is not on there that should be...................sheesh that would be too easy............... RP

Yet Watt has a much higher average than Buzz who you think should be on the HL list but Davey should not be................. And you say I talk rubbish.................... RP PS will people stop assuming who the last two signings are..................at this point no one officially knows..............nothing is a given........

Poole was £17 last season and the season before that possibly in 2013 as well............next seasons prices have not been announced yet............. RP

The powers that be decided how to calculate reserve averages - hardly Kyle's fault............ RP

I am also not saying that Newman would be in the WTC squad next year..............though he has been on the short list before....................I cannot find the link at the moment but when they printed the list of over all actual averages in the Speedway Star Newman had a higher average than Garrity............... What Garrity needs to do is change his attitude..............I have watched him a good few times and seen him deliberately try to and occasionally succeed in taking out other riders........what he did to Lambert at Cardiff shows he needs to calm down and I have seen him try and take out Newman a few times at Poole................... I hope that Kyle with the way they have changed the draft rules next season gets an opportunity to prove himself in the team proper............. RP

Not at all..................when they published the actual averages of all riders Newman had a higher actual average than Garrity as a draft rider over the season..............that is all I am saying.............where did I imply anything was being manipulated...............nowhere............. RP

Excuse me tell me where I said I did not like English riders.................I have a lot of time for a lot of them but there are a few who I dislike.............so what everyone has riders they like and dislike..............the only ones I have said that I am not a fan of is Garrity and Cook................. And no I was not an Aussie flag waver at King's Lynn last year when I went................and you cannot tell me who I can and cannot cheer for either if I wanted to cheer for the Aussies I would....................I don't tell you who to support so back off...............for the record I cheered for Magic at this years GP though I suppose you think that is wrong too................. No one tells me that Garrity is better than Newman.................until Garrity changes his attitude he will never make it amongst the big boys..................and for the record in the EL draft riders this season Newman had a higher average over all than any other draft rider Garrity included................ RP

Exactly...................and as Skidder1 said where is Garrity when it comes to riding in Poland............if anyone lacks ambition I would say it is Garrity for not wanting to get himself known over there.................... I will keep my real thoughts on Garrity to myself.............. RP Wondered how long it would be before you started spouting your anti Poole and Newman crap again..............did not take long did it.................

R.I.P. Pete................if it were not for you and Mervyn there may not have been speedway in Poole today.................. My thoughts are with his family and friends RP

Utter rubbish................Newman was going to be in the team when they introduced the draft in 2014 regardless............ Garrity chose not to go in the draft but the fact that reserves now have averages and can move up and down within the team makes a difference............. RP

For once I agree with you.................the way things worked out last season means basically that some riders averages are over inflated second string or under deflated heat leader................when you have a team where four of the riders finished on above 6.5 averages (the only one not inflated or deflated was Magic as he was a heat leader all season) it makes a mockery of trying to work out who should be where............. RP

To be fair people will donate to who they choose to............Darcy is a high profile rider world wide where as others are not that well known outside their own country.............. What Darcy does with his money is up to him and the trustees of the fund................if he chooses to donate some to riders in a similar position as he is that is up to them................ I do post updates on the Facebook page that I run about any rider that has been seriously injured as and when I see anything.......... What also makes a difference these days is the power of social media............back when Joe Owen and Alan Wilkinson were injured there was no social media and all that was done were track collections and what was arranged through the clubs management to raise money for them............... What I don't like to see is people saying why donate to one and not another..............people will do what they want with their money and its not for the likes of you or me to tell them which riders to donate it to.............but then the way some of these posts have been worded anyone would think that Darcy should not have had any donations.................the past is the past and no one is perfect................and anyone who says they are is lying................ RP

To add to your list TNT the reserves at Lakeside are Blackbird (tbc) and Mear (confirmed) Also I remember seeing that R Worrall is at reserve at BV with his brother.............not quite sure what that is all about but I am certain that is in the article on the BV website..................(Sorry misread that bit but it is badly worded on there he is in the main team but has a 4.10 average) What annoys me is that people are assuming riders are on the heat leader list when indeed none of us have any idea what the criteria is (as I said before) but as I have also mentioned else where those that started at second string last year in some cases ie Davey Watt have over inflated averages because of riding against reserves more and some heat leaders have lower averages than what they should as well...............the majority of heat leaders spent a short spell at second string last season anyway............... I have no idea why people are blaming Poole for this when like with the draft they have nothing to do with the way the riders are selected for it............ Its down to the powers that be who make the rules and all teams have the same rules to work to...............so its not favouring anyone in theory.................if anything some riders with around a 6 point average may find it harder to get a team place.............. RP PS and by the way why has everyone assumed Holder is in the Poole line up when it is yet to be confirmed................