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  1. iris123

    European Union - In Or Out?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-pfizer-exclusiv/exclusive-europe-to-pay-less-than-u-s-for-pfizer-vaccine-under-initial-deal-source-idUKKBN27R1F5?edition-redirect=uk
  2. Yes and that Doctor was giving an answer....I was just trying to check if his answer had any truth in it
  3. That's the sort of thinking I just love.....don't question things, believe some unknown bloke, he must be right
  4. Hmmm.....you just said it wasn't the credibility of the financial expert, but the message. Is that not the same with this ?
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    'the Donald' Trump

    Is tomorrow the big one ?
  6. Exactly....it say's it is a viable strategy for developing vaccines. The last word being important. It suggests it is a development method, and we know it is a new method used to develop vaccines. So is the guy just using words to confuse the subject ? And also it was rushed through in the US and UK by giving the companies protection, but not necessarily everywhere. The prices agreed by the EU in previous deals with vaccine makers have partly been influenced by liability terms, which could cause large additional legal costs if inoculated people developed unexpected conditions because of the shots. Asked about liability clauses in the Pfizer contract, which have been a bone of contention between EU negotiators and drugmakers, the EU official said conditions were different from those the EU agreed with other companies, and also different from those Pfizer had with the U.S. government. And I just wonder why a financial expert instead of a Professor of medicine thinks this is some thing of note ?
  7. Ok, so you haven't seen the patent. I wait for Blu to post a link and also to explain if there is any significance in what it states I can offer this, not as proof, but as supporting evidence that it might not have any significance, even if true https://www.asgct.org/research/news/november-2020/covid-19-moderna-nih-vaccine
  8. And just because someone has 'Dr' in front of their name doesn't mean they know anything about medicines or vaccines. Think that was the jest of the attack on Joe Biden's wife recently, telling her she should stop using the Dr title in front of her name
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    One thing you maybe can clear up for me phloppy as you are a bit of an expert in the field, is was the delay in the EU due to wrangling about liability if things went wrong ? Trying to proect citizens, I wonder. Just that it seemed it was rushed through in the US and UK by waiving liability for the companies if there were any bad side effects . Just I seem to recall seeing something that there was no such liability in Sweden and guess that might be true for the EU as a whole. This may or may not confim that The prices agreed by the EU in previous deals with vaccine makers have partly been influenced by liability terms, which could cause large additional legal costs if inoculated people developed unexpected conditions because of the shots. Asked about liability clauses in the Pfizer contract, which have been a bone of contention between EU negotiators and drugmakers, the EU official said conditions were different from those the EU agreed with other companies, and also different from those Pfizer had with the U.S. government. There was “no copy paste” on liability terms from previous contracts, the official said. French drugmaker Sanofi, which is working with GlaxoSmithKline GSK.L as a partner, has agreed with the EU a price of about 10 euros ($11.8) per dose and did not get any liability waiver, while AstraZeneca would pay claims only up to a certain threshold if something goes wrong with its vaccine in exchange for a price of 2.5 euro per dose, an official told Reuters in September. Bad side-effects after a vaccine is approved are rare but are considered more likely in this emergency because of the unprecedented speed with which vaccines are being developed. The United States has granted immunity from liability for COVID-19 vaccines that receive regulatory approval.
  10. But is the guy the financial expert and have you actually seen the patent ? quite simple really. I guess, you DC2 and ruff have seen the patent....
  11. And you and Blu But apparently Geologists and Financial Experts are the very fountain of truth.....oh and people who post on twitter
  12. And this is the thing.....you attack the 'MSM' for untruths. But also attack sites that try to check facts, and want us to believe the truth in people who inhabit, shall we say, the nooks and crannies of the internet. People who have at the very least dubious credentials....the likes of Dr Stella Emmanuel and David Heller I could probably put forward quite a few of your posts just on the Trump thread to show you don't really need any proof apart from someone saying something to believe it is true. Not a great example
  13. Has anyone seen the patent(s) to even know ? Where can you find them ? I am interested in this. But as ever Blu just posts something with no links to find out anything else
  14. I am just asking if your Dr David Martin is the financial expert mentioned. That is all. Please tell us who he is
  15. Just asking, but is this Dr David Martin the Covid conspiracy bloke ? https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/ with his youtube channel ?
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    'the Donald' Trump

    No doubt Blu, Wolfie and the gang will shed a tear as they fly off !!!
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    'the Donald' Trump

    See Melania won't be doing the traditional tour of the White House with the new first lady !!! And more and more of those arrested are saying they were following Trumps instructions ! If you ever needed evidence to show how he incited them.....
  18. Hancock in isolation and Dick telling people to spy on your neighbours and phone the Bill https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-covid-lockdown-report-neighbours-b900261.html
  19. We even had the start of a counter movement here the other day. One Roofer announced that anyone of his workers who got vaccinated would get the tin tack.....
  20. But even DC2 agrees it can be done, if you act fast enough, I think. It has been shown that some countries that acted quick nipped the virus in the bud. So it seems this is another of your pseudo science theories that doesn't hold up....... Maybe get Blu to post a graph to show otherwise ?
  21. Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't your and the BBC#s figure of 18 million a few minutes ago 'hypothetical' ? Or can you provide a link to the actual data ?
  22. I think that is the basis of her thoughts. Most countries got it wrong from the start....if you go back to her tweet from yesterday for example and some of her previous ones. It was the fact the UK were torn between two or more camps(health and economic) that led to the explosion in the first place rather than acting hard from the start as in some other countries. There was also a tweet from another person (not sure if it was a virologist or journalist) that stated they had been tested more in a couple of weeks in Asia than they had the whole 9 or 10 months in Europe. The fact that we have mostly had open borders during the whole thing, whilst others closed down fairly quickly.....
  23. So easy to prove wrong I just thought it must be one of yours In other news, visited the Docs today and he told me he hasn't seen any boom in Covid patients over the last few weeks......just the norm and only 1 over 80 year old with anything of concern
  24. https://mobile.twitter.com/devisridhar/status/1351259754497245185
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    Gab Kadyrov documentary (in Russian language)

    Can't understand it, so it is difficult to really get into. But interesting all the same. Few mentions of Briggo in there which I could understand. Think that is also Starostin at times, talking about Gab. Guess as they both rode at Ufa they knew each other
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