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Is Birks going to be fit for next season?

I agree that the silence is deafening and hopefully we'll hear confirmation that Stoke will ride in 2014 soon. So here's my shot at 7 fairly cheap riders (I assume Worrall will be in demand): 1. Ben Reade 7.70 2. Lee Payne 4.90 3. Lee Smart 5.76 4. Benji Compton 6.37 5. James Sarjeant 7.38 6. 3.14 7. Luke Priest 4.75 Personally I'd like to see a rule brought in where both reserves have to start on a 3.00 average, so... 1. Paul Starke 9.93 2. Lee Payne 4.90 3. Luke Priest 4.75 4. Benji Compton 6.37 5. Ben Reade 7.70 6. 3.00 7. 3.00

He rode NL and is eligible to ride for Team GB if he so chooses. He attempted to ride NL this year (for IOW) but was then told he couldn't as he had participated in the Aussie champs this year. Again, he's eligible to ride for Team GB if he wants... I don't want another Heeps debate but I think it's his grandparents that are British.

If we're interpreting 'NL riders' as those who have ridden in the NL but haven't had a permanent EL place then here are the top 20 (in average order): A: Cameron Heeps Lewis Kerr Jason Garrity Lewis Blackbird Stefan Nielsen Charles Wright Adam Ellis Ashley Morris Jake Anderson Paul Starke B: Joe Jacobs Lewis Rose Robert Lambert Robert Branford Ben Reade Jake Knight Josh Bates James Sarjeant Ben Morley Ben Hopwood But that doesn't take into account riders' ages and why Poole are rumoured to want to use Kyle Newman... Tbh it just seems like Vatcher & Morris are going to pick their favourite 20 riders! And under 2013 rules, 9 of those are ineligible for the NL in 2014.

SImple question here but have the BSPA looked at this properly? Currently riders with a PL average over 4.00 can't ride in the NL also so Kerr, Ellis, Nielsen, Morris, Blackbird to name a few are forced to enter the EL as riders in the main body, without giving them the security of heat 2. I mean that with no disrepect at all, as looking at my signature will show you that I'm a staunch advocate of the NL but I don't see how it is helpful by throwing these riders in at the deep end, whilst riders of lesser ability still will be up against the likes of Woffinden in the EL when they're not yet ready for the PL!

Did anyone on here attend the AGM tonight?

So in a 2 league system you'd have a 16 year old debutant in the same race as say Fricke, Bunyan, Aarnio or Sneddon for example. How is that fair?

1. Richie Worrall 8.64 2. Todd Kurtz 4.92 3. Rasmus Jensen 7.00 4. Tyson Nelson 6.16 5. Ricky Wells 7.81 6. Paul Starke 3.61 7. Jake Anderson 3.97 Thoughts?

1. Richie Worrall 8.64 2. Todd Kurtz 4.92 3. Rasmus Jensen 7.00 4. Tyson Nelson 6.16 5. Ricky Wells 7.81 6. Paul Starke 3.61 7. Jake Anderson 3.97 Thoughts?

Schramm hasn't ridden NL since averages were brought in instead of gradings so does that still apply? And Mills' average when he signed for Bournemouth in 2010 was 9.98.

1. Craig Cook 10.52 2. Max Fricke 5.80 3. Derek Sneddon 5.52 4. Joszef Tabaka 6.00 5. Sam Masters 7.32 6. Josh Bates 3.00 7. Charles Wright 4.30 Thoughts?

I was just wondering if there is anything actively going on to get speedway to return to Hull? Does anyone know anybody that is currently involved with Hull and how I could contact them? Many thanks

I've tried to send you a PM but it says that you can't receive anymore messages. I don't know if you've reached your limit, but if you could PM me an e-mail address or a way to contact you, that would be great. Many thanks.

3.00 / 0.6 = 5.00 Which is the same conversion from EL to PL I believe.

I think it's pretty obvious that Dudley were going to beat the injury hit Islanders at home, and I irrespective of how the points came the Islanders still kept it respectable. Then at Smallbrook the Islanders passed most people's expectations. To complain about the gulf between the two is disrespectful, both teams worked hard and were worthy of making the final. As it was pointed out, had Bekker, Ellis, Freemantle, Stoneman, Johnson & Ritchings not been injured it could've been completely different! I sincerely hope that I have a team to support on track next season, and as an advocate of National League speedway in general, I want more teams added not losing ones, especially my own! And until it's confirmed otherwise, I look forward to seeing the Isle of Wight on track in 2014!!

I'm not 100% sure on the subject, just I remember reading something in last years laws that if you didn't achieve (ie ride enough meetings that season to get a 'new' average) in the last 2 seasons then you used your converted PL average. I stand to be corrected... Jayne?

1. Steve Boxall 9.56 2. Jack Kingston 4.20 3. David Mason 6.38 4. Chris Schramm 5.68 5. Ben Morley 7.13 6. Adam Kirby 3.00 7. Connor Coles 3.67 If Boxall goes PL: 1. James Sarjeant 7.38 2. Shane Hazelden 4.77 3. David Mason 6.38 4. Chris Schramm 5.68 5. Ben Morley 7.13 6. Connor Coles 3.67 7. Jack Kingston 4.20 Thoughts?

But didn't ride enough meetings to get a new average.

He converted PL average is 5.00 and he hasn't attained a NL average for 2 years now, and so if I'm right we use his converted PL average which is 5.00.

1. Robert Branford 8.53 2. Darren Mallett 6.04 3. Jake Knight 7.62 4. Simon Lambert 5.00 5. Lewis Rose 6.76 6. Josh Bailey 3.00 7. Shane Waldron 3.00 Thoughts? Obviously KL have a league fixture left on Thursday so the averages will change slightly.

40.00 is the limit again, it was agreed for 3 years and 2014 will be the third year. Mills averaged 3.00 for Workington this season, meaning he can double up on 5.00 if I'm correct.

1. Joe Jacobs 8.71 2. Luke Crang 4.78 3. Oliver Greenwood 6.89 4. Chris Mills 5.00 5. James Sarjeant 7.38 6. Ryan Terry-Daley 3.00 7. James Shanes 3.46 Thoughts?

Yeah it's upped to 5.00 now, which is why Charles Wright (on 4.05) can double up.

Yes, the 40.00 limit was agreed 2 years ago to be effective for the next 3 years and Diamonds, if Kerr wants to ride PL then he can't do NL as well as his PL average is over 5.00... Also though, I read that Josh Bailey has already signed a contract for 2014!

Anyone going to this meeting that could text for the updates site, can they contact myself, ldtl27 or Sue please. Many thanks.