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    Speedway Champions League ?

    How would it have worked in the 70s? What club sides would have competed with the top british side?
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    Squads For Elite League Teams ?

    Cant see how clubs could afford it as presumably riders would require some sort of retainer to cover them setting up a set of equipment, workshop etc. For their uk racing.
  3. Fwiw, if it was a list of greatest American riders 12-14th would probably be about right. That wasnt the claim though, was it gustix?
  4. Ah ok, so a pretty small number of meetings. And averaging almost 2 points per meeting less if u exclude bonus points (27th in list). Still impressive, but hardly a candidate for rider of the year imho.
  5. Fair enough, thanks, i was clearly wrong. How many meetings was that from?
  6. Do u have his stats to back this up? I dont have them to hand but would be very surprised if his 2013 average was nearly 9. Happy to be proved wrong.
  7. Given tbe recen t thread on greatest riders, and that I understa d speedyguy is now back posting under a different name, I wonder if we are going to get an answer on how this claim can be justified?
  8. Others were able to make this point by making a reasoned argument, as has been done for smolinski and hancock for exsmple.That seems to me a better approach than quoting an irrelevant ststistic. Bruce penhall averaged over 10 in his last season racing in the uk, but that does nt mean he was the best rider in the elite league in 2013. Fwiw, if I was making a shortlist it woulf comprise tai and nki, the top two in the averages and probsbly the best in absolute terms, smolinski as the most improved rider and thetefore most valuable to his team in terms of points "added" - arguably the most important stat in speedway given the points limit rules - and ward as the best rider in the championship winning team. Tai would be my choice, though no complaints with choice of smolinski.
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    How Would You Do It ?

    Like that team, would consider swapping woffy and mich for zagar and worrall.Think the optimum team has strong top two plus Lambert. Then either third heat leader and low average second string with potentisl, or two good second strings with potential yo be third heat leader stsndsrd. An all brit team was unfortunately 0.02 over otherwise Woffy, cook, harris, worrall, lambert looked decent.
  10. Like the idea. But I'd add bjerre (gp rider committed to the el) and schlein (2013 elrc champ), ahead of pedersen and hancock. Lindgren and holder deserving guests as have given good service to el, and obviously boost the standard of the field.
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    Speedway Best Pairs

    Why on earth alternate? The pairs could be run on one weekend - or have two semis on the friday and a final on the saturday if they are eorried about upsetting the polish leagues. I can't see why u would drop the seemingly successful swc every srcond year.
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    Speedway Best Pairs

    They should run one then. Or let someone else run one for a small fee. Would be great to see the world pairs back on the calendar, and england/gb would even have a chance at a medal ( 5th favourites for the title?)
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    How Would You Do It ?

    Nki Hans Andersen Morris Ljung Lambert
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    How Would You Do It ?

    Nki Piotr pawlicki Magic Morris Lambert Or Nki Bjerre Doyle Milik Lambert
  15. Any of these riders a shot at nz wildcard? Or will that go to bunyan again? Or winner of nz champ likely to get it?
  16. Some discussions - primarily those about the future - will be basier around subjective opinions, ideally based on some logical and defendible argument. However one would expect a discussion about past events to be centred on opinions that can be 90 % defended based on facts. So a discussion on best rider in 2013 id expect to be focused on fact based arguments. Who will be the biggest best in 2014 I would expect to b based on subjective arguments and opinions, with potentially some reference to past performance as a basis for expectations around future performance.
  17. One. And darcy was better than tai at that meeting. But hampel won it, even though darcy was arguably the best rider on the night. So ive changed my mind, and my vote for best rider goes to Jason bunyan.
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    Favourite Closed Tracks

    Hyde rd, the shay, odsal and wembley.
  19. Who was the best rider in 2013 is an opinion not fact. An opinion without facts to back it up is almost worthless. To me, omly two riders can have a decent argument made for being best I tbe world in 2013. One is tai, who I and I suspect 90 per cent of people, would choose. The other is hampel, who has some claim to being statistically the best ridrr in 2013. Yet to see a decent argument in favour of anyone else
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    Speedway Star Xtra

    Dont see the issue so long as editorial content is not reduced. Without the ads you'd pay a lot more for a copy of ss.
  21. Darcy has far, far more natural ability than either of those two riders, and I have huge respect for both as riders, particularly KC who is the best visting rider I ever saw round Hyde Rd. If Ward does not become a multi world champion, he will have to be regarded as a wasted talent.
  22. Steve brum - I cant figure out why you quoted me before posting this? Tbf, tai was probably the best rider in the world 2013. We, re now 2014 so it doesn't automatically follow that he is still the best rider in the world. I am no poole fan, but statistically jarek hampel was better than tai last year (appreciate that even stats are subjective, but both henry and I did ressonably extensive stat anakysis and both had hampel as top). Secondly, while stats show tai clearly outperformed Darcy last year, that doesnt mean tai is the better rider. Better in 2013 yes. But darcy had been far better in preceding seasons. So who is the better rider is a subjective opinion, id actually go with darcy, though he hasnt yet had a season as good as tais 2013.
  23. How so? Hampel raced in two leagues, the same as tai. Except he raced in the tougher swedish league.
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    New Zealand Gp.

    i'm sure if it was possible, Bill would have done so, given that the Stones have historically played at Western Springs when they have visited NZ. Its likely to be a double hit for Bill, the lost revenue from a Stones concert at the Springs allied with potential decrease in attendance at the speedway. its frankly ludicrous that auckland council and/or Tourism NZ aren't giving some backing to the event. if they each fronted 4 quid (thats $8) per head, that would be approximately $400k less (even assuming the reduced attendance figures being bandies around) that Bill would have lost over the last two seasons, and may be far more palatable for him. For the government bodies, i'm sure that would be far less than is brought in by visitors to the event. with respect, i can't see the Stones interfering too much with publicity for the GP, the Stones ill likely be amongst the lead story in print and tv, Speedway has got decent coverage in the spiorts sections of both mediums in the lead up to events, that should continue. The only area it may impact is radio coverage, where more focus may be given promoting the stones than the speedway. i think the fact that the guy fronting the event has lost a milluion bucks suggests the problem is very real, and i'd say at very best a 50/50 proposiation of the GP series being continued in NZ. Yes, estern Springs continues to host a number of non-bike speedway events, though presuure from the NIMBYs and a non motor sport friendly local government means the number of nights speeway can run at the Springs has been very much restricted.
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