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  1. Grand Central

    The continuing decline of Speedway

    Actually what's really wrong is patrolling forums just to 'police' other people's legitimate points of discussion.
  2. Grand Central

    The continuing decline of Speedway

    I think that the People article did have an impact on the National media and it's attitude to the Sport. It played right into the hands of all those around Fleet Street who always believed us to be a Mickey Mouse Sport. And pretty much drowned out the voices of those who had battled long and hard on our behalf. It was a right kick in the teeth to them from those riders involved. That added to the 'Danish takeover' at the time diminished the profile we DID have in the media until that time to the negligible levels we know now. And in the end that would have had impact at the gates and sponsorship.
  3. Set for Glasgow just the week after next ... on August 4 https://www.glasgowtigers.co/woffinden-doyle-go-head-head-glasgow/ Bold move by the Facennas ... Hope it is a big success
  4. They have crap refs in Poland just as much as everywhere else.
  5. Absolutely right. In the 'olden day's of 'real' test matches they were official FIM inscribed events with all the priorities and aggrandizement associated. This meeting is not of that status. I notice that it does not even appear in the ISLB list of confirmed events updated on July 31st. So as far as the rest of World Speedway is concerned it does not really 'exist' in international terms. It has an official status more akin to a Testimonial or similar representative challenge and a Polish contract that has designated practice sessions included really does have more priority.
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    NO WORD FROM THE BSPA

    They will be paying their PRS dues for the music they currently play over the pa ... That doesn't change because they choose to designate a particular time to a rider for presentation purposes .
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    NO WORD FROM THE BSPA

    Getting back to the thread title and OP. Today's statement from Stuart Douglas and Jon Cook refers to the 'BSPA having exciting plans for 2019' ..... It's pleasing to find out that they have plans at all. Having kept then so quiet. But to find out that Stuart and Jon have found them exciting is simply mouth watering. It's like Christmas all over again. Waiting, and hoping and wondering IF Santa will bring the promised gift ... The anticipation just being heightened by not knowing until December.... I hope we are not left with Reindeer turd. Again.
  8. Grand Central

    NO WORD FROM THE BSPA

    I would say that 1000 was way too high a crowd level on which to base any financial plan for the majority of clubs, not just 'some'.
  9. Grand Central

    NO WORD FROM THE BSPA

    You make it sound so easy ... So it must be true. I would love to watch Championship level Speedway for £10 to £12 in 2019. But returning to planet Earth ....
  10. Grand Central

    NO WORD FROM THE BSPA

    You sound, from your much more 'knowing' perspective, to be suggesting that an 'one league' option could work better than before. I am happy to be be guided by you. I was of the opinion that it would be just as much of a FAIL as when tried in the 90s. Really surprised that you think it would be different this time.
  11. Grand Central

    2019 One big league will it happen.?

    True. People seem to be rather too glibly making statements of what is 'needed' or 'must' be done without the foggiest idea of the viability what is proposed ... Because we know so little of the details that matters. I just cannot believe that 'one league' is some sort of easy or even good fix for our situation. It may be the only one available come the winter but I do not look to it as any 'answer' in itself. One of the most obvious things about the current situation is the massive difference there must be between the 'top' clubs (financially) and the real strugglers for money across the premiership and championship. I find it very difficult to believe that enough 'common ground' can be found to combine such disparate businesses within a one league model with any great success.
  12. Grand Central

    Cardiff 2019 date Saturday September 21st

    Well I read what Torben had to say ... 1) Cardiff would be more attractive nearer the business end of the Championship where the meeting could be more 'vital' in the title race 2) moving away from the 'holiday season' will allow more fans to attend and this would be specifically the case for 'locals' 3) the later date should have a 'positive effect' on accommodation price. I cannot help being sceptical about his words though .... I have never heard anyone say they avoided attending Cardiff due to it being too early in the title chase but would suddenly do so if it were only 'more vital'. Most Cardiffs have been last week June to second week July which is generally not holiday season for most people. Goodness know why 'local' Cardiff folk would suddenly start attending in September when they have studiously avoided doing so for 18 years before . And I fully expect that the hotels will screw everyone in September just the same as July, especially as the Uni accommodation may be unavailable as well. I presume the Stadium is just not being offered to them any earlier than September for other reasons and he is just spinning it the best way he can. PS I am fine with September ... Just a little less BS from BSI would be nice.
  13. I watched the whole meeting live on Saturday via this guy's Facebook page ... If you go through his posts it is all here ...Great stuff https://m.facebook.com/dmclmotoclub/
  14. Grand Central

    The continuing decline of Speedway

    Yes but that individual would have needed to come to the conclusion you prefer. My guess is that the independent person is just have likely to have given preference to the Championship teams on Thursdays if it meant saving them. He may have thought that more important. It is just wishful thinking that the guy chosen would suddenly choose the 'right' path as you (or anyone else) might see it. He would just as easily go the opposite way.
  15. Grand Central

    The continuing decline of Speedway

    This is an excellent point. The constantly advocated panacea of an independent body is bogus. The mere fact of it being independent would not produce the BETTER decision making needed. Any individual picked is JUST as likely to have advocated and pursued policies identical to those of the BSPA. Incrementally year by year I don't think there is any liklehood that we would suddenly have hit upon a genius to help, where they collective of the promoters failed. Just-like-that. The problems are much deeper than such simplistic thinking I'd need to hear something pretty revolutionary from such a guru to believe they would be any better at all tbh.
  16. And hilariously this is all supposed to depend on receiving funds from local government to finance the operation. When you read up on the goings on with Ipswich Council .... I imagine that you could find the Burghers of Togliatti to be bastions of probity in comparision.
  17. Grand Central

    more investment for NSS

    And local politics being what they are the public is always receptive to any stories that rely upon allegations in the press of politicians squandering public money. It feeds into prejudices easily no matter what the (lack of) factual basis. A certain Boris Johnson cut his journalistic teeth filing reports from Brussels about the EU wasting money on a weekly basis. Most do not stand up to scrutiny. But fast forward a decade or so and see where this can get you if the public like the message you are sending. I imagine this Kilpatrick guy will bang this drum for all it is worth, to him.
  18. Grand Central

    more investment for NSS

    True But generating headlines of 'Reckless' Council doing so is one that most others would not want splashed across their local rag. But then I dont supose one that is almost a one-party state needs to care.
  19. Grand Central

    Cardiff 2019 date Saturday September 21st

    You are correct about all the Cardiff attributes you list. And are right to identify the horror show from Blunsdon last night ... But the extra Cardiff attendees I know of would not be going to Swindon on a Monday night even if they were serving up the best Speedway fayre ever produced. They still wouldn't be interested. Just to make clear that is offering no defence of the shameful nature of last night. Cardiff is just different in ever so many many ways for them.
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    Cardiff 2019 date Saturday September 21st

    A large number of the Cardiff 'extras' are from extended family ... My wife and her son & hispartner do Cardiff most years but don't/won't go to anything else. But that is not really down to the Speedway ... More due to the weekend away in Cardiff we tend to have with the meeting just part of that. I get the feeling that is quite a widespread situation. Also tend to see quite a few people who don't have a local track of their own any more but have got into the habit of making the annual trip to the GP. I don't think many of the extras i see or know if would ever be candidates for other British Speedway events though, no matter what the BSPA do... Cardiff has created its own niche ... Totally separate from anything else. EDIT ... one thing I already know is that whilst I am totally happy with a September date i may well have to go alone next year as my fickle 'extras' have already expressed their doubts... We shall see nearer the time.
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    Cardiff 2019 date Saturday September 21st

    Ah you went to the wrong school then ... I won't tell you what we studied in Biology ... But I was top of the class in the practical lessons.
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    Cardiff 2019 date Saturday September 21st

    Thankfully ever since I was at school and did a subject called 'History' I have understood the possibility of knowing facts about a time before i was born. Books (or even magazines) are a good source of this sort of information.
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    Cardiff 2019 date Saturday September 21st

    Err, Yes. But he's going back quite a bit. First Saturday Final was 1956 I believe.
  24. Grand Central

    Cardiff 2018 21st July

    Good to hear that from someone who was there. The TV people didn't seem to know what was going on so difficult to judge for us back home. Mind you BSI have usually gone to town on very innovative parades at Cardiff anyway. It has been rare for them to send the riders trundling out. They have done some real spectaculars down the years that have worked really well.
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