Rayleigh

Very Good As a neutral regardless how this situation arose they should let Lakeside through to the final and all it will need is for Rob Godfrey to phone his long time friend Ged Rathbone and ask him for a favour and step aside, presuming g they are friends.

Prehaps you would like to pay for it or put together a consortium, oh its easy to just ask others to foot the bill. Whilst I am no apologist for the current owners the place was allegedly condemned by H & S after the state Silver left it in.

I agree with most of what you say although this years drop in attendances was also down to Fixed Race Nights and a different attitude from certain senior riders. I only comment on Lakesides private grief as I have lost my club twice now (after 30 years of supporting the Rockets I held the club to account by not going in 1993, but after a few years of it being closed I realised my folly) you then come to realise how ever poorly the patient is, it is far better to keep it alive, even if it is in far from ideal health.

Oh I here sighs from fans of defunct teams all over the country, sadly your wish may come true if you are a reflection of the Ammers fans.

Crowds were about 1500 to 2000 last year with about 550 for the end of the Silver era, the best I have seen there since the early 80s. I see your plan, f@ck off the people you need to attend to save your club as there wernt enough Ammers last night to save your club.

One other point about last night. I was really really cold and there were some pretty bad accidents which will naturally slow the meeting down, but in one heat the Workington management replaced Bickley with Campton (correct decision) but because Campton now had "2 on the trot" he was allowed about 15 minutes to get ready WHY? if he needs a break then don't choose to put him in the race. So what happens, it is the mugs (supporters) who have to hang around getting colder. Tail wagging the dog, what in speedway I hear you ask. As a neutral it looked like Workington wanted it more than Lakeside who for large parts of the meeting seems second best. Oh and thanks to Lakeside fans for slagging off our stadium, out track, our lighting, our food, whilst it may not be great The Arena Essex Raceway was never confused with London Palladium. Get real guys I don't think you get it , sadly you are on the cusp of extinction as a club, so suck it up and rally around before its too late.

don't worry now you have challenged the delicate flower he will have a list of excuses as long as the straights at Berwick, If you think he is "passed" it (no crime as all riders do eventually, except Hancock) Glasgow fans just remember him hunting down and overtaking Jason Doyle in heat 15 to win the play off match, the man still clearly has it, well for some clubs.

Your right the race nights were a disaster for Rye House but the atmosphere was not the same right from the start this year and its wasnt just Harris not putting in a fair shift.

Horse and Cart, Cart and Horse - If Harris had put in proper commitment at Rye House then maybe just maybe the club would have kept the number of fans from the previous year and then the club would not have closed and then he would have earned more. But without tracks there is NO earnings for riders so promote your sport lads or get a part-time job to support your hobby. NO RIDER HAS A DIVINE RIGHT TO RIDE FULL TIME UNLESS THE SPORT MAKES ENOUGH MONEY TO SUPPORT THEM TO DO SO (i.e Grasstrack)

Oh Yes I concur with The Glasgaw fans. Harris was more Bummer than Bomber for Rye House if he missed the gate he was just "swaning "around in third place (8 matches top score of about 7), so watching his performances for Poole was @.+~. Lost all respect for the man. p.s. I couldn't understand how every year in the Fantasy Speedway League he always started with an average in the 7s, could it be that he would cherry pick his matches at the end of the previous season to reduce his average and then become more employable next year (very good for Harris not so good for the paying customers who attended those meetings).

Just noticed Lakeside are riding "at home" on Friday, this meeting is being staged at Rye House because Lakeside run out of home dates because they were not allowed to ride on ………………………. FRIDAYS

Hi Startline Sid, Finally its official see you on the 14th. Whilst Im delighted to get to go to Rye House Stadium again spare a thought what the poor Lakeside fans feel about the demise of their track, clearly I know this feeling all to well.

I see the 29th September is a Saturday and I thought Lakeside said they would not ride host a meeting at the Arena Essex Raceway on a Saturday "confused"

Hi Startline Sid, Please read the Barraiders comments on the Championship page.

Just noticed a fellow Witham dweller (not something we normally admit to)

Whilst it may be problem for the current owners to granted a licence by the BSPA , I believe another promoter could cook up a deal to run at the stadium and BMR would revert to being landlords.

Hi Startline Sid, read a great quote "everything comes to those who are patient"

Hi Startline Sid, It would seem that a scenario is starting to emerge that we might see racing at Rye this season.

Have you ever bought an old second hand car and find out later when stripping down the engine you find the Manifold Head Gasket was split. "Theres none so blind as those who wont see"

But Scunthorpe were going up to the National League in 2008 and they wanted Tai and if I recall Josh Auty to spearhead the team. My point is we cannot take all the credit as we didn't discover him from our training track like a Dan Bewley or even a Marvyn Cox (whom we did develop although that was 36 years ago) A Health and Safety inspection condemned the stadium with a massive list of problems only missing" two dead pigeons in the water tank". It cost a fortune from BMR to at least have three more years speedway. As for your valid point that they couldn't revive it, well there seems to be some confusion that BMR may not have pulled the plug rather the BSPA did. I am sure Ben91 and waytogo28 are as big a fan of Rye House as I am but please try to see what has really happened at Hoddesdon over a long period of time.

Not sure why you choose to make your response personal instead of debating the valid points I make. The point about Woffy was he didn't discover and train him but his cheque book was bigger than Scunthorpes (Chelsea and Man city would approve) Thanks for enlightening me that "Uncle" Len was talking to me direct. "you clearly have some personal problem with him", No, but the facts I listed are more relevant. Given the decaying team and stadium and fan base I don't think BMR (sure they were naïve but them meant well) are the main reason for this situation ITS LEN SILVER and by the way there was one particular promotion at Rye House that I thought were exceptional.

How easy it is to have rose coloured spectacles about Silver How about winning - He nicked Woffy from Scunthorpe (who actually developed him in the National League) when we won the league How about the team - The teams deteriorated year on year (don't mention picking Boxall over Doyle) How competitive we were - We landed up bottom three year on year (the only team missing us now is Redcar as they are bottom every year) How about the stadium -, no investment what so ever in fact Health and Safety condemned the stand, so without the money BMR put it the club would have been shut down anyway How about the crowds - well he oversaw a drop from 1,500 to about 400 each meeting How about the marketing - quote " if you do like it the way I run it then don't bother coming" He run the club down in the mid eighties and poor Ronnie Russell (I am no fan of Ronnie) copped it until it closed in 1993 He was given the club back by the fans in 2000 (first night back at Rye House a crowd of over 2,500 and paying the riders around £10 per point (you do the sums) He run the club down again and poor BMR (I am no fan of BMR) copped it until it closed in 2018 Yes I yearn for my club to back, No I don't yearn for it to be run by Silver

Im not a spokesman for BMR but thier quotes said the money was going to be paid. So I take them at their word.

Who says he hasn't or wont be paid? Prehaps trying every week would have resulted in better results for the team, then more fans will attend, then more money is raised, then he gets paid earlier?

So Chris Harris signs for Poole It has been pointed out that Chris`s performance for Rye House were baffling to say the least this year (sadly this resulted in his average being reduced, but luckily for him a low average makes him more employable). His one great performance this season was 4 wins and a fall on a 5-1 at Poole (but I am sure this was a coincidence that they happen to be his new employer) the rest of the season was littered with 6 point scores. His form this season has been erratic due to various circumstances he himself outlined earlier this year, well I am so glad that immediately after losing his job at Rye House and is in the "shop window", he breaks the track record at Glasgow. It would seem that by total accidence Chris is a very lucky rider.