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    Christer and Reidar

    The Sverre Harrfeldt thread got a bit side tracked by a discussion about Christer Loftqvist andReidar Eide so rather than spoil that thread I thought I would start a separate one as both were involved in two of the most memorable races I have ever seen. I say memorable rather than great because we can have different opinions on what is a great race but sometimes you see a race or races that just seem to define everything you love about speedway. The two races in question took place in a West Ham v Wembley match 13th October 1970 . There was a great build up to them . Reidar went out and won heat one over a second faster than anyone else rode that night, and inflicted Olle Nygrens only defeat of the evening. He was back out in heat 5 and whopped Tony Clarke and Barry Crowson. Two heats later he came out on a tac sub to beat Christer Loftqvist. He was looking invincible and the fans resigned themselves to him going through the card. Then came a fabulous heat 11 , when Loftqvist and Eide were programmed against each other. Reidar made the gate (just) but with Christer scraping the fence as only he could , he slowly edged in front , but with barely half a bikes length lead he locked up sightly coming out of bend two lap 3 allowing Reide back in front by a matter of inches. I think Christer had the throttle hard against the stop for the rest of the race and came back to win by about half a bikes length. Heat 13 was a repeat of Heat 11 except that this time Christer was round the line unusually for him and Reidar round the boards. Christer again locked up a bit, same place ad before, but being on the inside, he recovered more quickly and again won by about half a length. Speedway at its absolute best. Anyone else remember it ? One of the few programmes I still have. West Ham closed down for redevelopment soon after and I felt bereft. I continued to Hackney for a time but it was never quite the same to me and eventually I drifted away for many years until returning to Lakeside, which for me somehow captured the mood of Wets Ham in a way that Hackney never did, not for me anyway.
  2. Looking back over old programmes it is surprising the number of riders that my memory tells me were very good weren’t actually all that consistent, it’s just that I have been judging them on the basis of a few great races I remember and one tends to forget the ones they don’t do so well.
  3. They are to all intents and purposes, the public face of speedways administrative body. They are by far the worst leaders the sport has ever seen. Both are totally inarticulate, totally unimaginative , totally unable to project themselves or the sport, totally unable and unwilling to comunicate with the fans in a meaningful way, and totally unable to seriously consider any outlook on the sport but their own. Other promiters may have simialar flaws but these are the two front men who should be selling the sport. Quite seriously, what progress has the sport made since they have taken over the reins , despite Chapmans bluster at the outset ? They are the worst of a bad bunch. Beyond useless.
  4. So if we say, in general terms, the quality of the racing is roughly the same as it's always been, some good meetings, some not so good, then as long as there are not too many bad meetings, we can say it's not the quality of the racing that turns people away. Obviously there are a lot more ways to spend your leisure time today than there were 30 or 40 years ago, and less and less people want to stand around in stadiums all evening because it's not just Speedwáy that has suffered. Dog racing has suffered heavily and stick cars are not doing as well as they used to. So if we say that is not the on track action that had turned fans away, at least not in great numbers, it has to be the off track issues like presentation and the cheating which to my mind is a major factor , even though it was probably always there to a point. If it is the off track issues that are the problem then that falls back in the lap of the BSPA. Unless and until the likes of Godfrey and Chapman take a long look at themselves and take their share of responsibility, nothing will change.
  5. If the future of the sport is in the hands of Godfrey and Chapman we might as well shut up shop now . Godfrey behaviour last season was beyond the pale. As 50+ year follwer of the sport since knee high to a grasshopper, I now find motivation to see another meeting ver difficult, and it’s almost entirely due to Godfreys machinations last year. The sport can’t afford to lose a single fan yet Godfrey has just turned thousands away. The man is a complete and utter plonker. As one promoter said to me last season, the way things are going we will finish up with the same two teams facing each other eeek after week, nothing else left.
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    Mystery American rider

    So let’s get this right. You start a thread asking a question you already know the answer to, and which nobody has the slightest interest in, and when challenged you try to tell us your reason for starting it was to see if Iris 123 would trail you . Of course you didn’t expect him to catch you out by pointing out that it was just another of your attention seeking scams. Take notice of what Chunky says and stop making a complete fool of yourself.
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    10 favourite Australian riders

    Jack Young, Adam Shields, Dave Watt, Nick Morris, Geoff Mudge , Aub Lawson, Leigh Adams, Jason. Crump,
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    10 favourite British riders

    A excellent choice, if I may say so Mr Bold, although I have liked to include the Hurri-Ken himself, namely the immaculate Mr McKinlay.
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    Workington 2019

    The duplicity of the BSPA general and Rob Godfrey in particular knows no bounds. My utmost sympathy to Worky fans. It was Godfreys interference in the fixture list that created the problem.You can bet your bottom dollar that if Scunthorpe were in Workys situation acw@y round it would have been found. Still more money in the BSPA coffers and another promoter who loves the sport forced out.
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    Former London Venues

    Boy, how good is that starting procedure. Everyone lines up a bike length from the tapes, then when they are ready the start Marshall calls them all forward, they move forward onto clearly marked lines on a hard surface, tapes go up and off they go. No gardening no fiddling with clutches, no moving into someone else's part of the grid, no hanging around on a two minute warning because someone isn't ready or is playing games. It's all so simple. How did the powers that be manage to make the start so complicated ?
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    Former London Venues

    They are fair points norbold so I guess it comes down to there being no final absolute black or white final answer but in the context of the thread I think it is fair to say that as Eric Chitty, Aub Lawson and Jack Young all won the London Riders Championship as West Ham riders that makes West Ham a London track in speedway terms...….
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    Moderators: are you there?

    Yes, I agree 100%, but it raises the question " when is a troll not a troll?" , in other words , how do you draw the line between the genuine trolls, and those that are just plain thick, or socially inept or attention seekers or like others to think they have inside information when they don't, and all these other things that are irritable to most of us but not exactly trolling Bottom line is, it's a public forum and you can't ban people just because you don't like the way they express themselves. You are right though. I haven't looked at the Premiership section since the season finished and usually only have cursory glance at the Championship section, for the reasons you state. In a sense it reflects the way the sport in general is going, which is a shame because I have met some great people through Speedwáy.
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    Former London Venues

    How do you define what was Essex and what was London ? The postal address was London E.16 ( the stadium that is) , in contrast to Romford which was always Essex and only got a post code when Greater London swallowed it up. As a County Borough it’s governance was independent of both London CC and Essex CC , it operated it’s own fire brigade and its own Tramway ststem until 1933 when it came came under London County Council. The police service was part of the Metropolitan Police but conversely the judicial system came under Essex County Council. The adjacent boroughs, Ilford Barking and Degeham always were regarded as Essex for postal services until absorbed into the GLC. All in all its a bit of a moot point but Having spent part of my childhood in West Ham and later teenage years in Romford people in West Ham certainly considered themselves to be Londoners but Romford people always thought of themselves definitely as Essex.
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    Moderators: are you there?

    You have a report facility on each post. If you don't like something that has been said you can always report it. No good moaning about the mods if you don't use the report facility they have given you.
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    Former London Venues

    West Ham , the county of my birth, was a collection of Essex villages until the building of the Victoria and Albert Docks around the mid 19th Century onward and the building of the Eastern Counties Railway linking the Docks to London. It then became rapidly developed industrially and became one of the most populous boroughs in the country . By the time the Speedwáy stadium and dog track was built in 1928 it had been a County Borough (( making it independent of Essex County Council) for around 30 years, and was part of the London Postal Area (E.16). A number of services were being provided by the old London County Council. That to my mind makes it a London track from the time the stadium was built.
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    lakeside 2019

    Instead of attention seeking it would be a good thing if you got yourself informed on what the petition is for. It is not for a debate. You can go on the Thurrock council website and keep up with the news if you are genuinely interested instead of putting stupid post on here, so toddle off.
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    Adam Roynon

    I remember him guesting for Lakeside. He fell and dislocated his shoulder . He still went out I his next race, in a lot of pain to crawl round at about 20m.p.h. To collect third place in a three rider race to collect the single point that gave Lakeside the narrow win. Considering the amount of pain he was in, and the fact that he wasn't even a Lakeside rider, just a guest, it was one of the most courageous rides I have ever seen. He would have been quite justified in withdrawing from the meeting. If ever a rider deserved more success, Adam did. Best wishes for the future Adam.
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    lakeside 2019

    The other thing is that when the 211 fans turned up it was at the end of that run of rain offs and double headers we half the time we didn't know whether matches were on or off. The last meeting at Lakeside drew a huge crowd and the crowds at Rye were pretty good at first till it was all messed up with the weather. its also the case that the stock car crowds were falling off dramatically in the last few years, only kept up by a few big meetings per year. If the stocks were more profitable it's unlikely the owners would have pulled out as early as they did.
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    Wolves 2019

    Based on how Morris perfumed at Lakeside last year I would say that Wolves is a great move for both rider and club. If Morris is given a good racing surface ( which he will get at Wolves) he will be a very entertaining rider to watch I am sure. Pretty good gater, and decent overtaker when he doesn't make the start.. He rapidly became one of my favourite riders last season. He also seems very professional in his set up. Its only the poor racing surface at Swindon last season that kept his average down after a few bad knocks caused by the track. I wish Nick and Wolves well for the season.
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    lakeside 2019

    Yeah, but dullards like Chapman and Godfrey see that the other way round.
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    lakeside 2019

    Viewing is personal preference. I never minded going to RH a couple of times a year when the weather was nice and ejoyed the close up viewing but I wouldnt want it every week and for regular viewing I much preferred Arena, where I could always see the whole track from the main stand or entry to bend 1. As for racing, what you said is simply not true.Rye House is a converted stock car track. It is also a small track that rides like a big track, I.e.full throttle and if a half decent rider makes the gate and keeps the throttle open he won't be caught, especially as the straights are relatively narrow. . As for Lakeside being too flat, you only have to stand on the stock car track at the apex of the Speedwáy bends and you will see the Speedwáy bends are banked to around knee knee height. The racing at Lakeside was improved when the shape was changed to give more width going into the bends. Neil Middleditch described Arena as a thinking mans track, in other words a rider has to be thinking two steps ahead of where he is on the track all the time. Kelvin Tatum said that because it is mentally demanding a lot of riders are beaten in their minds before the race even starts. I think referee Chris Gay summed Arena up pretty well, he said Arena was not the best track he officiated at but it is in the top half. Unfortunately you, like several others on here want to impose your opinions as being absolute right or wrong, but there are plenty of long term Lakeside fans who take the opposite view. To see a rider like Peter Karlsson going from last to first with one of his famous cut backs, or riders like Ed Kennett or Lewis Bridger scraping the air fence and firing themselves off the banking at Arena is as good as you'll see anywhere. The great thing about Britsh Speedwáy is that all tracks are different and the style of racing is different. The problem is that some fans are too closed-minded to acknowledge that.
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    Wolves 2018

    I can see the logic of a one minute warning even though personally, I think it's a bit harsh. My point though, is that the issue is not whether the pit gate is opened or closed, it's a matter of having a fixed time interval in which the riders have to be back at the tapes.
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    Wolves 2018

    Opening or closing pit gates is irrelevant . All it needs is for the ref to put two minutes on immediately. If he does that ( which to ne fair many of them do), it doesn't matter whether the rider stays on the track, phones his girlfriend , or goes off and powders his nose, he still has to be back on the start in two minutes, which is hardly a massive delay.
  24. Let’s hope those in charge learn by this. They have to get the fixture list sorted. We have Ipswich fans, for example, having had 13 meetings and a season that finished in early August while others e.g. Lakeside Peterborough and Worky , with great gaps in the fixture list sometimes weeks between meetings then rushing to get meetings in before November.
  25. It would be a big improvement if they were.
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