Steve Shovlar

It would make no difference. I beleive he should be riding here full stop. To choose foreign leagues over the UK is just plain wrong. I can understand riding in Poland. Less so in Sweden but other top riders manage three leagues without issue. If he is tired, then drop Sweden. As a Brit he is letting down British fans.

Absolutely. It seems Gavan's posts are fact and true and everyones elses opinion is trolling. A few days ago he said he was speaking for everyone.mhe wasnt speaking for me and never will. A shame he can't debate. Everyone has their own opinion, some think crapping on the uk scene is fine while others think it a disgrace. See, that's my opinion. Others will disagree and that's their perogative. I took no joy in writing that post. I don't dispise Woffinden or anything like that. Just believe he has let his home country down very badly. Surprised others can't see that but I don't revert to childish name calling. So you have a different opinion to me, but rather than counter my post with some constructive debate, you attack the poster calling me an imbecile, moron and a troll. I am neither of those things and have an opinion just like everyone else. To try and slur me by saying I know nothing about the sport is also false as you well know. It certainly is and makes the poster look like they are incapable of realising there are other people out there who don't have the same opinion.

The British Final is a farce simply because Woffinden couldnt be arsed to ride. Too tired poor little mite. It makes a mockery of the event and reduces the crowd considerably. But Woofinden doesnt care. He doesnt care for British speedway full stop. It doesnt matter that British speedway gave him the opportunity to learn his trade. He has already stuck his middle finger up at league racing. Hell to all the fans from Wolverhampton that cheered him on. Now he has wrecked the British Final but not being bothered to ride. Yet all the apologists are out in force posting his schedule, which looks the same as the majority of the sports top riders. And lighter than nki, Jonsson, Holder and Zagar. Personally the crowd for the swc wont be affected as most of the tickets have now sold anyway. I would drop him from TeamGB. We owe him nothing. Let him take a holiday to give him the opportunity to get over his tiredness. He has disrespected British Speedway and for the life of me I struggle to understand why some people are still supporting him. The most unpopular British World Champion ever? We are not going to win anyway so give the spot to a youngster.

Comedy post of the year.

The edr is one of the best ideas to come out of the bspa in a while. Trouble is they have completely messed it up this season with edr to heat leader. If the promotions are talking about getting rid thats wrong imo. Keep edr at 6 and 7 but change the heat format so they get some tougher rides. But not against heat leaders.

Missed it completely. Is it up on youtube to watch?

Was I said earlier, the EL cannot be dictated to be the PL. There must always be a league in the UK that has top riders. Whilst there are not too many at the moment, that could change. Following a PL model would be suicide for EL clubs whose fans want to see the best on offer, even if many stars are missing. Where would progression happen if there was not the opportunity to race against the best in the sport? What would happen to riders with averages over 6? Out of work? Would we all witness heats where riders are trying to finish at the back so they get below 6? Dont laugh it could happen. Swedish Speedway isnt that much stronger than British. Yes they have stronger teams but judging by the crowds they are not packing them in. Watching every Tuesday shows crowds similar or perhaps slightly bigger to here. But the outlay for the riders must be much higher. Take the opportunity to ride el on a fixed night or two per week, perhaps Wednesday and Thursday, could see top stars heading back. Matt Ford is asking fans what they want. More meetings, absolutely. But having a weaker team on nights when Its not an el fixture will not be supported, as has been proved in the past. Call the agm early. Get the rules mapped out well in advance and put them out to the fans to discuss and mull over. Stupid mistakes like the edr could be avoided. Fans of the sport are just as wise as the promoters and can pick up on likely problems, especially as there are many more of us than the couple of dozen promotions.

We absolutely dont want to lose the el. Pl racing is ok but not el. Where would the top riders go who have averages over 6? Holder v Jake Allen? Nki v Skidmore? The bspa rules state that if the el becomes untenable the leagues will merge and then reform with an upper and lower league. Without a top league riders cannot progress meaning no developement of British riders.

Nothing on kodi either. Looks like we are out of luck tonight.

No we are not but Matt Ford is asking for change so that is fairer to all edr riders. Don't critisize Matt Ford for asking fir the change all fans want to see. Lets see it implemented for theB fixtures to givean even playing field.

Thanks for the advice. Just driving up leaving at about 6 am is a real pain on. Bank holiday. 10 hour drive up and back or 50 mins each way on a plane.

As for Murray, is there a more bland, dull and boring sportsman on the planet? Did anyone really care that he lost yesterday? He still got about a million quid. A few Strawberry eaters at Wimbledon and over hype on the bbc, but really no one really cares Murray wins or not.

I am happy for him to win. But still stick to my opinion that what he has done is totally wrong.

Need someone like Milik who is quick out of the gate.mperhaps they can do a swap deal on the loan fee!

Sods law when Poole ride the A fixture it will be a Monday night meeting meaning we will only bring up a handfull. For the bank holiday meeting a few of us are looking into flying up from Southampton to Manchester. How easy would it be to get from Manchester airport to the track? How far is it? Think the B fixture is afternoon meeting meaning we could fly up, watch the meeting then head back to the airport for an evening return.

He was probably too tired to race anyway. Got a hectic day today doing 5 minutes of racing so no point wasting energy. Meeting was pretty good but utterly meaningless. The celebrations by the winners seemed completely over the top for what is no more than a corporate event for invited guests. Still, the riders had to look like it meant something for their sponsors. If it was the speedway FIM best pairs World Final it would have had meaning. It shows what some riders thought whenPepe couldnt be bothered to ride when it mattered.

But clearly his so called injury wasnt enough to stop him riding all his heats last night, so it follows that he was fit to ride tonight. But Rosco had already said he was injured on Thursday and would be out.

When you consider the millions of people that live in the area, they should have crowds far bigger than most other clubs.

You really believe Swindons win tonight was fair and Ok?

Rubbish. If you read the updates it says Tungate was right on the exhaust pipe of the opposition when he ran his last last. Truth is Swindon didnt want him tonight and by riding last night he wrecked Swindons excuse of an injury, and though they still played that card, their hand was seen.

Good its now that that club needs to grow. If attendances were of a similar size to last season there would be cause for concern. Glad its all on the up. Wish the Poole A fixture could be re-arranged.

Out group at Poole all had a bloody good laugh when we discovered this bloke sitting in Front of us was you. Thought you were going to burst into tears as we ripped you apart, then slunk off before the final heat with your head bowed so low it was almost between your legs. Well done Swindon on a well deserved win over Leicester. You fans must be so proud of the way it was done.

Casting aspertions? Saying it as it is more like. You are defending the indefensible. Rosco said Tungate was injured on Thursday. He rode all his rides on Friday. Pretty obvious he isnt injured. Theres none so blind as those that cant see. Feel sorry for Leicester. Totally conned tonight. I saw the light.

What was the crowd size tonight being a Saturday meeting, and how does it compare to the crowds at the old track?

Expected reply from a boring old fart. Truth is your team is a disgrace with this cheating. Rosco on Thursday. "Tungate is injured and out for two weeks". Friday. Tungates takes all his rides for Somerset. Saturday. Swindon still say Tungate is injured. Doyle has six rides. Swindon get paid 8 from Tungates rides. Absolute pure cheating. Disgraceful. And their fans defence of this cheating is staggering.