Sings4Speedway

Providing the spectator numbers are not skewed by those attending with / because of particular competitors then its fairer. Without straight up polls its not easy to determine how many attend due to being fans of each sport rather than to watch certain friends/family members? However probable large factors for increased interest could feasibly include the additional number of races, flow of meeting, contact between competitors & fewer medical delays after accidents.

Out of interest (and i may regret this) how many of those involved on the stock forums / FB groups are competitors vs supporters? Not sure how many car competitors there are that frequent Buxton on a regular basis but i suspect its far more per event than Speedway competitors. The only "fair" way to make comparisons would be if there were forums from amateur/open speedway meetings where large numbers of competitors opt to compete in.

Enthusiast: I wonder if at some point Gustix will say something positive about current British Speedway? Realist: Not a chance.

All you wanted to do was draw attention to how the SGB define the league? So you didn't suggest that the title of the National League section should be amended? You didn't belittle the league repeatedly referring to it as just a training league? You didn't state that it is far from the prestige competition of the "golden era"? This is a forum and you are entitled to your opinions as are everyone else and if people choose to defend an item you wish to attack that is equally fine. However if you wish your opinions to have any level of merit stand by them rather than defer what your original intentions were.

Would make sense if football wasn't equally stupid and had Premiership then Div 1, 2 etc. Think we can all agree (except probably Gustix) that the sport has bigger things to improve upon than the leagues naming structures.

I can't say i have noticed a band of Weymouth supporters but suspect they must be there. Have noted Reading, Exeter & Milton Keynes all having a dedicated band of travelling support so its clear the love for some is still there. On a slightly separate not i hope / prey that Weymouth can find a home venue for the upcoming season, surely Swindon would be able to accommodate them? Its only half a dozen 2nd half meetings a season but means a lot to so many.

Firstly i didn't say they were not worthy, i just disagreed that they are more worthy than the current clubs. Secondly you quoted teams and not riders competing in the leagues, there have been more than enough threads comparing Tai, Robert Lambert, Craig Cook etc to the calibre you listed but not wishing this to descend even further but ultimately you have a well voiced downer on the current National League and nothing will change that. There are many more that value and respect it and by it i mean the clubs, riders and supporters that define its existence.

2.19 LEAVING THE COURSE/CUTTING THE COURSE This rule has been completely reworded. Last year it read as ‘The Clerk of the Course may exclude a competitor(s) who permits a wheel/wheels of his/her motorcycle and/or sidecar to cross the defined edges of the track, or who displaces marking flags with motorcycle/sidecar or any part of the person, unless such action was taken in the interest of safety or due to the action of another competitor.’ Any competitor(s) whose motorcycle crosses the defined edges of the track markers/white line – with any wheel – will be disqualified unless, in the opinion of the Clerk of the Course, the action was taken in the interest of safety for other competitors, or the competitor involved was forced ‘off course’ due to the actions of another competitor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Probably long overdue but is this a heavy handed approach? How consistent are Clerks of Courses going to be? Is everyone subject to this ruling of just lesser riders? How long until a final finishing order is affected by this change?

Nobody is debating the fact that the league has an official name and a predominantly used name, much as the majority do not introduce themselves incorporating all the middle names they possess in day to day conversation. As for not being "prestige & bona fide" compared to the era you cling to i strongly reject the premise that any of the defunct clubs listed were any more worthy of being part of a National competition than any who are competing in it today.

Much appreciated although not sure how accurate it is? Stoke valued at a whopping £580 is clearly a huge over valuation or some dodgy accountancy!

Track is certainly better at Kent than it used to be but does largely favour the brave who are prepared to go out to the dirt and go round the outside / find the drive off the bends. very easy to defend going into a corner and without mistakes its incredibly rare to see an inside pass.

I have to agree that a switch to Saturdays would most likely increase crowd levels at the start of the season but could well see them tail off as other competition for things to do increases. The same as the very competitive Kent side that has been assembled this year will keep some fans flocking back week on week but if they start hitting 60+ points against most teams there will be several that slide away again as the level of entertainment drops (that said everyone's views of what makes the sport entertaining differs hence its current woes).

Certainly a very sad outcome and whilst the reasons for not running are various the over riding fact is that largely clubs don't want to host these teams. This is shown even more prominently by Weymouth having a promotion, naming half a squad and then having no available track. With so many midweek tracks it makes a league even harder to be sustainable and despite the willingness of many riders (which is often over looked when NL team selections are considered) this year will see another mass of cobbled together away teams and ultimately more riders lost to the sport.

The latter makes sense (as i see no sense at all in anyone signing Hurt-all). With the points left its seems almost certain to be an assessed foreign rider....wonderful for British Speedway

Better off without him as is the whole of Speedway, if you don't like it Berge then begger off. Got enough problems as it is without the incredible sulk kicking off every year.