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Sorry mate, think I'm the culprit on that one. Just wondered what you meant or maybe meant sommat else. Think said forum police are on the look out for me so you should be alright.

So how many of your handpicked 1 - 7 have away averages of more than 8 ?? Is it just the one ?? Surely this goes against your ethos that you've been espousing and castigating Glasgow for. I've asked again seeing as you ducked the question when I asked before on this thread. I guess we could be waiting a while.

....looks like you just volunteered.

Eh?? Are we allowed to say that kind o' thing these days? Take it you meant sommat else.

I also tried to work out what you're saying. You say "Jack Smith has never lived up to expectations" - well if he was say in his mid or late 30's that might make sense but he's only a teenager in his first season so "has never" doesn't seem to be an appropriate categorisation. You then say "which is a shame because he has been one of the better 2 pointers in the league" - so all things being relative he's done well according to your own statement.

Speedway has long had riders that ride like a world champion and top score one night and then struggle to get 2 points the next. One that springs to mind is Mick Poole - wasn't there a rumour that his tea had been spiked at Shawfield when he scored only 1 or 2 points all night and being ribbed on successive appearances about it. With so many variables - different tracks that suit or don't suit a rider, bike set ups that suit different tracks, mental block for a rider on some tracks, confidence, the opposition, the heats each rider is put into, the odd bit of luck on the night, falls, mechanical gremlins, etc. And of course motivation or possibly lack of. You could well have a point but maybe not cut and dried. Unless the rider's first name is Kev.

Oh dear! Gentlemen please. I get the Summers thing about his points scoring at Newcastle and seems a fair enough point. Maybe a bit naughty to refer to other posters as "knuckle draggers" which if I understand correctly is a derogatory and derisive term meaning, inter alia, "....unintelligent idiot, low level primate, unevolved human". Although I would probably rate myself as one. I guess many of us can quickly go from 'reasonably intelligent adult' to somewhere short of that on social media, says mr perfect here (not!) and as guilty of that syndrome as anybody. A wine gum anybody.

An ailment I suffer from after a curry. Jack Smith - yep having taken the hit this season prob better to keep for next season and reap any improvement. Summers - I agree he's lost some ground from last year and am also unsure whether his average will recover or bottom out but seems his future may be elsewhere.

Appreciate his virtues, but the stats don't lie - with an average of about 7 Robson wouldn't stand up to riding as one of the top 2 i.e. at either 1 or 5. He's also about 40 years of age and on the down slope with little or no prospect of improvement, more likely a reduction in average. I'd gladly take him on say a 5.8 or 6 point average as a second string that can pitch at times like a heat leader but for every stellar performance a 7 point ave rider will have a stinker to balance it out. I'm afraid you can't get a quart out of a pint pot. To be a top 2 rider at either 1 or 5 you want either an established a top liner that's around 9 point ave or a young rider that's on the way up on a rising average and unfortunately Robson fits neither of those pre-requisites.

You sure about that one? Sure he goes pretty well at times. But then so does Summers - at times. Overall the stats don't lie and to get about 8 point average then you will appreciate that on average over the season he is better than a rider attaining a 7.20 average. The other thing is age - at about 40 years of age Robson is doing well but he's on the down slope so little chance of improvement. Same could be said of Summers as far as prospects for improving goes but I'd personally be inclined to take Robson on say a 5.8 - 6 point (slightly false/low) average as a second string that can chip in now and again like a heat leader which is really what a 7 point rider (actual scoring ave) is gonna do imho. And I appreciate you know all this stuff anyway. And yes I don't have any solutions nor alternatives to suggest so I will shut up now.

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Sorry I'm a bit late but only recently seen the two legs on catch up tv. And, after a helpful pm a few months ago from him, i wanted to congratulate "Sydney the robin" by pm but seems not able to accept pm's at the moment. Anyway. Incredible viewing. Its years since I attended BL matches and in recent years its been second tier for me most of the time. Commiserations to Wolves, but personally I don't believe in the playoffs system and from my point of view it was fitting that Swindon being 1st in the league table should eventually secure the title. Incredible drama, incredible viewing. Hearty congratulations to the Robins.

What a load of garbage. Look at the Championship Top 20 rider averages published in the Speedway Star. Given 10 teams in the Division, it follows that, on average, there will be 2 riders per team. The actual rider representation per team, as published by Top 20 averages in the Star is:- Sheffield 3 Ipswich 3 Edinburgh 3 Glasgow 3 (Worrall / Lawson / Summers) Newcastle 2 Peterborough 2 Workington 1 Redcar 1 Berwick 1 Scunthorpe 1 You keep saying riders should have an away average in excess of 8 points. As before the Star's stats show that, with the exception of a rider having only a handful of rides and out for most of the season, only the top 13 riders in the whole league have an away average of more than 8. So on average that works out at 1 per team and which by your own figures Glasgow have. Even in the "improving on last year's average" stakes, your own analysis shows that Lawson increased his average by 0.34 compared with Worrall whom you heep praise upon only increased his by 0.09 and Lawson's is marginally the higher average. Your 2018 team selection which you've listed on another thread - only one of the riders you've handpicked has an away average of more than 8. So you contradict your own ethos. You say you hope Lawson is on the way out. Maybe better if your posts were! You should stick to chasing Miss Piggy.

Well with five grand sweetener to perry for standing down on top of the ten grand appearance money to sarjeant jobs a good un

Non forsit. Beatus auxiliari.

You do realise that you only need either the first word or the last word, not both Apologies in advance. I'll get me coat (yes you're right, that's grammatically incorrect)

So most of these have away averages of more than 8.00 do they

No worries mate. You're just a better/faster typist!! I wouldn't class myself as Cook's biggest fan and I don't know about the illness but he's 'a class above' in the Championship is he not and deserves his chance in the GP.

Can see both sides of this one

Haha. Brilliant!! When I clicked "like" this bit wasn't there, only the milking stool line (haha). And now it has this bit about a ban all now included as a multi-quote and it won't let me unlike it. Bleh!!

And of course Cook would have been a genuine title contender as well and a loss to the event. You mention about a forgettable season - hope its a better one next season. Workington have produced some brilliant teams over the years, always entertaining away from home, and some brilliant riders, e,g, Carl Stonehewer the kind of rider that when he overtook the home riders and took the win on the line etc you just had to stand and applaud. Best of luck for next season anyway.

See what you mean and does sound like a good idea. But on the down side chances are the league would be strengthened year on year and maybe not sustainable? At the same time part of me says lets go for it and find out!!

I would've thought that forum royalty such as yourself should be welcomed with open arms. ....and no I'm not taking the michael

What happens if their own team isn't involved.... but one of their riders is a guest. Does that count.

Haha. That's what I typed to start with and "corrected" it, lol