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You only need to look at Holders scores in Sweden and Poland to see that UK doesn't appear to be his priority anymore. Much like some other 'top riders' who struggle to beat mediocre opposition maybe time to cut these guys loose and restructure. You only need to look at Holders scores in Sweden and Poland to see that UK doesn't appear to be his priority anymore. Much like some other 'top riders' who struggle to beat mediocre opposition maybe time to cut these guys loose and restructure.

I think it all depends on what sort of EL there will be next year and the riders allowed to double up etc.

Is this one of the reasons the Elite has lost many riders of quality when the better riders are owned as an asset by a small number of greedy promotions ?

Robbo had a poor match that night unlike him his form currently is very good - hope gate 4 doesn't have the advantage.

Still pathetic way of making changes AND no wonder a performance to match! I would ask the question that has Cook been a positive or a negative for your team?

New lows in PL speedway sacking riders in the middle of the meeting .....,!

I can see Chris Harris taking a d/u job if his average fits - or Scott Nicholls Interesting to see if Adam Ellis could be tempted back to the PL

Easy just get Dan Bewley into your team somehow!

Ole Olsen once famously remarked that the best way to sort out UK speedway was to shut down the Elite league. I think his off the cuff comment is closer than we ever envisaged and the time is right to invest in the NL. Our much meligned promoters should come clean and say that we cannot continue as we are with an EL that's become a joke. Perhaps then it will concentrate people's mind if they want this great sport to survive or not and the NL will become the lifeblood of the sport as it frankly should.

Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory!! Inspired guest in Douglas - was he the best available?? Good effort away but really should have been a nailed on win for Rye.

Strength of teams needs to be addressed if we are to retain the current race formula. Otherwise weaker reserves will score nothing and teams who grab the best available will prosper.

Would the 'Berge' commentators please start their own thread!

I think we now know why there was a camber on the first and second bend - it maybe stopped gate 4 becoming a nailed on first place! And next season I hope the BSPA have the guts to penalise teams who have more than 2 riders competing in the Elite by upping their average otherwise this league will become a farce.

Lunna certainly likes Rye and a 4 point average to boot !- hope he's on their shopping list for next season. Who owns him? I suppose Bewley would eventually have a good meeting he's been to Rye more times than I have this season! Quite how Glasgow aren't running away with this league is baffling and another team with a strong Elite presence. Thought the meeting had real drama and another last heat deacider although I thought Robbo got 3rd in heat 13 as I was standing in line at the gate. Similar as the meeting verses Somerset denied a point at least.

Wrong meeting and wrong date ! Please try harder!

I keep banging on about this but if the Premier league allow's so many riders to double up/down or whatever then it's holding back riders in the National league.

SWINDON 52: Josh Grajczonek 13+1, Rohan Tungate 11+1, Charles Wright 10+2, Thank you!

Unless the Raiders have a team with youngsters like the Brummies it will be a waste of time running again. Better to have second half racing and MDL meetings where the current lads will be more suitable.

I think Josh deserves some praise for finding grip on a bald track - Robbo probably keeping out of the way !

Berwick got a good draw at Rye with 2 good guests and Robbo having an off day. Will be close but Berwick not as strong for this tie.

If you don't have a PL place then it makes sense to allow NL riders to guest irrespective of their average - the sport or rather promoters complicate a simple replacement scheme. Draft riders will only work providing they don't increase their average considerably otherwise we will get into the situation where promoters will cry 'it's not fair' your rider is averaging 6 in a reserve position.

Some good points!! Come off it Shads the bloke is a serial pessimist.We have ridden 4 matches against Somerset and did OK in 3 of them not thrashed. The Lambert and then Klindt farce made the team under strength and that's been our lot but have to say I've not enjoyed a season like the current one since the Tai Woffinden era.

As Shad's stated there was no gamble with BWD he was always going to average 5 and Allen was better developed rider since he couldn't get into the Berwick team a few years ago.I'm pretty sure a lot of clubs would have liked those two,certainly Rye did! Would also say that Rob Suttleworth was impressive and gives notion to the number of good young riders there are in the National league who should be getting more chance in the Premier. As much as we like a strong Premier it is holding up these guys development I feel.

Considering the Somerset team are mostly Elite riders I think Rye can feel a bit hard done by especially taking on the top team with a huge gap in home meetings. Once again a double header produced a super sick track that didn't suite home riders - Likke especially. Tungate takes after his name Tun-gate! Reminded me of Eric Gunderson in his hey day!