Sidney the robin

Is that your excuse!!!!!!

Great figures strange how when his average had dipped the following year he often put a point or 1.5 on his figure again.Langton and the New Zealander Ron Johnson are two great riders who often get forgotten.

His run off with Van Praag in the 1936 world final was a strange affair.!!!

I wonder what Langton's average was at Hyde Rd ?he often gets forgotten.

Definitely Duggan Chunky, the speedway public were robbed of seeing just how good Farndon and Craven really were a crying shame .Jack Young and Ronnie Moore for me would also be in a top 20 riders ever in history.

I do think when you are a supporter of a certain rider you could be blinkered , most of us are very guilty of that myself included more than anyone. My point is Falcace gave us all a great post he said some of us would consider, Rickardsson,Crump, Pedersen, Hancock in the top fifteen riders of all time.Myself personally only Ricko, Crump, would be considered in a top 10 after that all up to conjecture not that they were not good anough but over a test of time there are loads of great riders to consider.

Maybe that was a weakness that was often thrown at Briggo?? not a criticism as i was a massive fan of his.

I believe Hans helped Coxy, Sorensen, Dugard all improve as riders his team riding skills were sublime.At Swindon we always knew there was a good rider in there in Per and he really grew as a rider riding under Han's wing.

All if's and but's Steve all hypothetical really it happened in different era's what if Peter had not been killed? what if Bjorn had not retired ?.Hans had served his apprenticeship at Wolves/ Birmingham he grasped the nettle and what a terrific embassaddor he was for speedway.

Great post i personaly think Erik was more consistent than many think and he would of always been there in amongst it.The Hans/Erik years was a strange period really because Penhall, Lee,Carter, Sanders,Sigalos all disappeared off the scene because of differing reasons leaving a huge void and opportunity.Going to Oxford was the best move Hans ever made and yes he should of won at least six titles great rider certainly.

I must say Erik had Hans measure on the big occasion generally, yes three titles before that horrific accident who knows???? .Hans was terrific stuck at it showed real mental aptitude and really should of won at least six titles for me me.Going to Oxford regular from 1983/ 89 Gundersen and Knudsen were two riders who were not in awe of Hans and both had great head to head records against Hans. Lee was another rider one who always generally faired well against Hans over the years not many did.

A very good rider in the Jackson, Wilcock ( etc) mould well good anough to ride in a mega hard BL.The old saying was small fish in a small pool never bought that Joe/ Tom Owen proved that.Sampson/ Perks at Nottingham were a real force again Perks was always BL material.

Remember seeing Mike in a morning fixture Cradley v Swindon 1980 Mike was certainly a BL rider.

Why would you say that Chunky ???? why not just comment on the subject ?

Really not to worry i, am sure you would give some other poor sod the benefit of the doubt because it is Mike Lee NO.