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  1. I have been compiling an  alltime top 30 of British riders and by god it has been difficult.I have compiled a list of about 50 riders and need to eliminate 20.Ron Howe and Brian Crutcher were two riders i never got to see ride but know there career's and both were great riders.It would be great if any of you have any input on both riders which could help me in my research.My uncle who saw them both ride said Crutcher was very stylish indeed and How could always mix it with the best would they both be hovering around a top 30 British riders of alltime.??

  2. 11 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

    ...oh but what a character! Garry certainly left his mark on the sport with his 'misadvenetures' and people still talk about him after all this time.

    I was always puzzled as a youngster about Garry  Steve,because he seemed a happy go lucky chap when i see him ride.I have his prized autograph and always thought his reputation was false.In a way just like Jack Millen he had a fearsome reputation but people have commented on just how nice a guy  Jack was he was great for helping young riders.Back to Middleton Steve how good was he ?  you would know more than me on that score.He was really good for Oxford fast and aggressive it is such a  shame how his life ended up.

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  3. 3 hours ago, Terry said:

    Hawks                                                  Kestrels

    1. Barry Thomas                                 1. Barry Thomas

    2. Bo Petersen                                    2. Andy Galvin

    3. Bengt Jansson                               3. Mark Loram

    4. Dave Morton                                   4. Paul Whittaker

    5. Zenon Plech                                    5. Alan Mogridge

    6. Finn Thomsen                                 6. Steve Schofield

    7. Garry Middleton                              7. Trevor Banks

    Middleton would be higher than no 7 Terry wouldn't he?????  he was very talented was very good at Hackney and Oxford .

  4. 1 hour ago, steve roberts said:

    I think that was during 1976 (when we lost again!) and if I remember Brian picked up a knee injury that night  (clashed with Bob Kilby?) which caused him problems for the rest of his career. A real shame because he wa really developing into a very useful rider and may well have ended up a full-time 'Rebel' although he was a 'Panther' thru' and thru'.

    We eventually broke our 'duck' and won at Blunsdon in 1978!

    Spot on Steve sorted my progs out and in 1976 ( i remember spill now with Kilb, Brian got injured he was awarded a point in heat 4 .Swindon won 47-31 Ashby 12max. Gordon 14.    1978 Mastrup debut 0 knew there was guests Nigel Couzens 5 John Barker 4 for White City Swindon 36- White City 42 Kennett a 12 point max great days.

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  5. 46 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

    Yes, Sid, and with risk of going over old ground 'The Rebels' released Richard Greer to a struggling Birmingham before it was known that Dag wasn't available for the '77 season which left them two heat leaders short. Marek was inspirational (especially around Wood Lane) and it has to be remembered that Paul Gachet picked up an early season injury (broken ankle) which kept him out of the side for the entire season. Mike Sampson (who was a match winner on more than one occasion) and Dave Kennett filled in but it was the ovearll team spirit and ethic that got them thru' in the end (and a little help from Barry Thomas!) despite intense pressure from Exeter and Reading in particular. A great season and one that I cherish personally...great days!

    Didn't manage to beat you 'blighters' at Blunsdon that year however...

    I can remember Steen Mastrup making his debut against the White City i think ? and if i remember rightly Brian Clark rode for the City that night.?

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  6. 1 minute ago, steve roberts said:

    White City 'Rebels'

    Gordon Kennett, Dag Lovaas (await the usual comment), Marek Cieslak, Kai Niemi, Steve Weatherley, Trevor Geer, Mike Sampson. Richard Greer.

    When you look at there Championship side Steve it does not look breathtaking there team ephic and spirit must of been good.

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  7. This week has been great because the fans have been kept up to speed about what is happening.The new track looks exciting, so roll on the pressday and i cant wait until the 11th.It has not been easy for the promoters/Rosco over the last few years because they are often in Limbo a lose/lose situation.Alot of the stuff they dont know themselves so i suppose the best ploy is to say nothing hope thing's turn out well  speedway in the UK need Swindon just like every other Prem club.

  8. 7 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

    Looks ok that. I think that will improve things. Looks like it might be one of those tracks where the bikes never go straight, always slightly sideways down the straight.

    Not quite as much of a horse power track, which can't be a bad thing.

    This changing of the track could be the best news the fans have had for along while it is quite exciting really.The track might take a while to develope but hopefully we will get better racing than we have been served up recently the widening of the straights should help anormously.

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  9. 1 minute ago, Gavan said:


    1. Tony Rickardsson

    2. Chris Louis

    3. Jeremy Doncaster

    4. Billy Sanders

    5. John Louis

    6. Scott Nicholls

    7. Dennis Sigalos

    Very hard to leave out 2 World Champions in Loram and Gollob but ive gone for longevity alongside individual success



    Louis snr) , Louis jnr) Rickardsson, Gollob, Sanders,Sigalos,Davey 

  10. When i first started going to speedway as a young un  the special part for me was the visiting teams.Most of them had a top class no1 who maybe you would only see once or twice a season that made it special .Also the team's lesser light's of the sport and every team had them we could all relate to them they were one of us i miss that part of it.My team Swindon had two lesser light riders in Keen, Hitch, they both  give me alot of pleasure over the years .And i often wonder in this era they would of been replaced without a thought but not then because  they were idolised by there home fans different times.

  11. 38 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

    eh no inside scoop it has all been put out there in black/white by the club council rosco russell who ever since the farewell meeting in 2015 new stadium plans etc !! all that's being done is track shortening so more houses can be built FACT !!

    More house's will be built but touch wood the speedway will still be aloud to continue.My take is as long as there is still speedway to go to twice a month i am more than happy the new stadium great IF????? it happens but i am happy to plod on with the tired old version.That is why if they can get the new shape of the track right good racing can develope again and that  might compensate a little towards having to put up with a tired old stadium.

  12. 27 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

    Blunsdon used to produce some great racing when I used to attend but even in my time I do recall the track deteriorating and becoming rough and uneven although it was occasionally put right. I would be concerned as a 'Budgie' fan that it appears from the photos that the track may be significantly shorter but perhaps that may be for the better...time will only tell.

    Tell you something Steve i never ever thought that a bigger track would deteriorate as much in a short space of time as the Abbey has.I believe the straights are to big  for the  bikes now and if this track is shaped on the Somerset model it has to help to provide better racing.

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  13. 8 hours ago, Grachan said:


    Great stuff Grachan, that track needed reinventing the racing generally has been  dog poor for along time now.As Speedy Pete says if the entertainment level can go up the crowds can stay healthy and  we are still well supported generally and i am convinced we can get a gate between 12/1400 most weeks fingers crossed anyway.

  14. 11 hours ago, geoff58 said:

    well the track is being shortened for that purpose !! because the original plan was for track to be turned 180 degrees to have bends 1/2 on back straight along with pits & greyhound kennels !! seems all they are doing is shortening track obviously a lot more to do cash wise !! houses will be built on existing car park wait & see !! sadly this is all going to end in tears i fear !!

    If it does end in tears so be it, no good worrying about it it is out of the supporters hands,  me personally i am just  grateful we still have some speedway to watch in 2019.As time goes on i am more hopeful that the club might still have a future because to be honest i thought it might be over by now all the fans can do is support the club while it is still there.

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  15. 12 hours ago, falcace said:

    Not true. I was playing Devil’s Advcocate and said you could make a case. Which you can. But if you’d pinned me down as to where I think Siggy was when his career suddenly ended, I’d have had him up there with Nielsen as arguably the best rider in the world, with Gundersen, Carter, Lee (problems aside) a gnat’s hair behind.

    Sanders? He’d be in a group with the likes of Knudsen, Shawn Moran, Morton, Andersson, Crump, King, Shirra as world class riders, but not quite the creme de la creme.

    Sanders was also 14 years into his British career when it came to a tragic end aged 29. Sigalos was 24 and just into his sixth year in the UK. So they were at very different stages of their careers. If - big IF - Sanders has gone on to be world champion, he would have been the oldest first time winner ever at that time, breaking Mauger’s record. Only to be subsequently beaten by Ermolenko and Gollob.

    Anyway, we really are going round in circles now. I think we’ll have to agree to disagree :-)


    A really good post and the case you put is a pretty strong one actually Falcace you are one of the few people who really have recognised how good Sigalos was.

  16. 15 hours ago, chunky said:

    Again, you claimed that I had stated - or at least implied - certain things, which I had not.  No, it is not a case of me not respecting what you say, but yes, I do get pissy when I am accused of saying something I clearly did not.

    I also stand by my reaction to your comment about Lee needing Penhall around to motivate him.  Yes, that is a remarkably bizarre claim, and if that really is true, then Lee is not the rider I thought he was...


    No,Steve if you have the Lee DVD there rivalry was outstanding lee beating Penhall from the back at Gothenburg  in 1980  and in a World Cup round  in 82 at Kings Lynn.



  17. 2 hours ago, lucifer sam said:

    Sid, no need to get upset.  It's just a discussion.  I know people sometimes wind you up something rotten, nobody is trying to do that on this thread.

    We simply disagreed regarding Billy Sanders being a major threat to Erik & Hans at Bradford in 1985 and subsequent finals.

    Totally understand Sam thanks for that no i am passionate about certain stuff but i do respect what other people have to say.Chunky god i respect what he says always have done just got the vibes that he was getting chopesy and does not respect anything i say.

  18. 1 minute ago, chunky said:

    Not at all. You said my post was crazy because I stated that Sanders was an "also-ran" - when I never said anything of the sort...

    Your tone is not good yet you twist it around to make me look the villain.Your opinion is sound and i respect it i dont get the same vibes from you just saying.


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