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  1. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    We could get into a long debate if I want to check back over the last few years but won't. Lets just leave it that we have a difference of opinion on the merits of Keleher/Cook snr against say Kennedy and perhaps Josh Mac. I repeat that I really hope I am wrong and both pile on the points for Poole in their respective roles of main team and reserve. As fro Zach Cook. Was not going to happen because Matt/Danny had already commited to the riders that he would keep the same team in 2021. It was only the Rising Star rule & POL rule changes that forced their hands. I say forced but they could have chosen Josh over Ben but chose the asset route. I hope Josh gets a berth in UK when we can hopefully then compare progress of one who had a maiden UK season against a completely untried rider on these shores. Keleher for me still has to live us to the hype that he may be a really good rider. On a 4 he should be a bargain signing but again having never ridden here we shall see.
  2. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Skidder - This is a forum where we can share opinion and not just sing the praises of the owners. I have expressed an opinion and made comments which all are free to respond to negative or positive. I have also followed the Aussie seasons for a number of years now when we are in our Winter hibernation mode. I follow regular the Aussie sites as well as Youtube and the main Polish Speedway news site which shows all the results/comments and some meeting highlights. I have openly said that I HOPE that both Keleher & Cook step up to the plate. If they can't do it against a lot of weaker/inexprerienced reserves in this weaker league then they are obviously not of the quality the so called experts make them out to be. Personally I prefer both Macdonald & Kennedy but they are other clubs assets (but both available to Poole). both of them have UK experience and both had their UK breakthrough initial season. I think both would have progressed and would have been good switching in and out of reserve at this even more watered down level in 2021. We could even have had Ben's younger brother Zack as no Somerset and he is arguably in many Aussie's eye a better rider than Ben. Based on both Aussie results from previous seasons and future ability. As mentioned I hope my observation is misplaced but based on studying reports/results of these guys my opinion is as it is. Would love to be proved wrong but let's see as the season unfolds. As for Matt's Aussie contacts - Let's not forget that most of the Aussie NON UK Club asset riders were already signed up & sorted when he signed our 2. Ben was coming with Zach so made sense and Keleher had been telling all of Europe how good he was for ages before he signed. Let's hope the ability and scoring matches his own hype.
  3. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Have a sneaky feeling we may be relying quite a bit on Hume & Cook to score points against weaker/less inexperienced reserve riders. There are plenty of these young guys finding their way in these reserve slots. Cook is not a newbie and has held his own against some mid order Aussie riders and Hume is a proven N/L H/L with scope to improve. Still fairly young and missed some time with injury. Incredible to think a rider younger than Cook i.e Zaine Kennedy who has regularly scored well in Aussie and just missed out on their U21 title some seasons back (as well as scoring so well at the weekend) has missed out (so far) on a UK slot. I wanted him for a while to be at Poole but the Fords seem all about trying to sign new assets. As Kennedy is not as asset it seems they don't want such riders. I assume also about saving money as no loan fees to pay. Who would I rather have at 4 points -Cook/keleher or Kennedy. On ability and age I would go for the latter but let's hope I'm wrong.
  4. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Indeed it was an E Final which puts into perspective how bad his performance was. Lets hope there is more substance to this guy than just flashy social media sites and a snazzy website. I was not impressed with him even in the 2020 Aussie finals before his injury and think we have signed him more on maybe hype than perhaps ability. But suppose he is a club asset which is the most important thing for Poole it seems similar to the totally untried Ben Cook in UK. I worry how we will stack up against the likes of Leicester who look a really strong top 5. maybe we will be relying heavily on our 2 reserves to outscore heavily against riders such as the Thompson twins. Leicester top 5 of Douglas (almost unbeatable so far in every Aussie meeting) Morris (surely will get back to being the 8 plus PREM rider he was 2 seasons ago), Howarth - Proctor & Bates looks strong. Our top 3 look ok but below that will be interesting.
  5. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Was a bit surprised Keleher didnt post on social media re his performance in the Darcy Ward meeting on Saturday. Hardly inspring - 3 points from 4 rides - a win in a B final against 4 nobody's and then disqualified. He beat not one rider of any note in those 3 points beore the B final where he rode against riders all below him and none of any stature. When you look at the decent riders scores including young riders with potential like Jedd List it does make you wonder. He is not a youngster (27 plus) has been riding bikes for years in one shape or another. I do hope his riding for Poole turns out half as good as his media sites portray both himself and his website. But suppose with the promotion its all about asset building. Below is the scorecard it took days to get. Before the diehards say its only one meeting, please look at ALL the decent riders scores as well as those with little to no experience like Jedd List. 1. Ryan Douglas (3,3,3,2) 11 + 32. Zaine Kennedy (3,2,3,3) 11 + 23. Jason Crump (3,3,3,3) 12 + 14. Nick Morris (2,2,3,2) 9 + 3 + W5. Jordan Stewart (2,2,3,3) 10 + 26. Justin Sedgmen (3,1,2,3) 9 + 17. Rohan Tungate (2,3,2,1) 8 + 3 + 08. Declan Kennedy (3,1,3,1) 8 + 29. Kye Thomson (2,3,1,2) 8 + 110. Jedd List (3,1, W, 3) 7 + 3 + D11. Jacob Hook (0,2,2,1) 5 + 3 + 212. Mitch Cluff (1,3,0,2) 6 +113. Jake Allen (1,2,2,3) 8 + D14. Connor Bailey (2,0,2,2) 6 + 215. Cooper Riordan (0,3,0,1) 4 + 116. Zane Keleher (0, W, 1,2) 3 + 3 + D17. Cordell Rogerson (2,1,1,0) 4 + 218. Kane Lawrence (1,2,1,0) 4 + 119. Flynn Nicol (1, W, 2,0) 3 + 020. Joel Coyne (1, W, 1,1) 3 + 221. Moz Brown (0,0,1,0) 1 + 122. Broc Hall (0,1,0, U) 1 + 3 + 023. Aaron Jackson (1, U, 0, D) 1 + 224. Bailey Viner (0,0,0,1) 1 + D25. Josh Coyne (1) 1
  6. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Sounds to me like the kind of thing which could drag on for years. In the meantime let's just hope that Poole can continue to use the stadium, plus the stadium facilities for a few years yet. I suppose Matt/Danny will come forth via the Echo and Social media if there is anything worth mentioning in the near future. Hopefully we go forward even if it is one season at a time.
  7. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Yes I know. However would you be keen as a high end purchaser really be happy to have the noise on your door step. Will be intrigued to see how this develops (if at all). The development is mightily impressive, but the speedway track. Let's see.
  8. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    You can see that going down a wow with the apartment owners on top of the stadium. Speedway noise travels. Much as I as a speedway fan would enjoy a free ringside seat from my balcony, heaven help what the rest of the residents would think of it. The redevelopment idea/plan is very impressive and in line with what I would expect on prime Dorset land. A speedway track in a high end residential area I would be very surprised to see. Love to be proved wrong. I lived in a 13th floor high riser overlooking Hackney Marshes when I first got married in 1975. I used to go to the track regular as only one mile away. I can assure you it could be loud enough back then even from there so lord knows how much noise these residents would have to put up with.
  9. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    That's what I was saying. Only made the point about Latvia as its an even worse drive if driving from DK and for what - a dozen meetings over Lat/POL maybe which restricts him to 3 leagues. He cld do 4 if he combined the 2 UK Lges plus DK/SWE. Keeping say 2 bikes based in UK would surely make a lot of sense with potential income from lots of meetings over both and with a good sponsorship presence. Also thinking long term he can still squeeze a food few seasons over the 2 UK Leagues as he is still well thought of (and supported by sponsors) and the quality short term is still going to be within his scoring range to be a force. I still think long term a number of the top riders will avoid UK. POL rules will imo still continue to allow maybe a max 3 leagues and riders like the Danes will always go down the POL/DK/SWE route for a combo of financial and geographical resons. Swe on a Tue and then drive accross to DK for the Wed makes sense as not having to fly in and out of UK. Danes need DK due to sponsors and allowing them to qualify for their own national Champ as well as SGP & SEC qualifiers. I think Hans case is he is getting older so he can maximise meetings and income over 4 lges without having to go to Latvia/POL. He has dropped from POL EXL to POL 1 and now POL 2 so his light is fading in POL. Looking at the riders in his new team Dauv to be honest I see it being a struggle for them (just my opinion).
  10. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    I think in Poole's case don't think it matters much. If Schlein no issue as he has his Champ av - Hans A again as he arguably has a low 5.78 Prem GSA after his injuries in 2019 so arguably a bargain at 9.26 if 1.6 or 8.67 if 1.5. Bjarne P would be 10.48 at 1.6 or 9.83 at 1.5 (unless any further reduction for not riding here for over 5 years). If it's Schlein then arguably they could go for a 4 star rider as just squeezes in. Other than Perks who has stopped for 2021 & Bates nothing inspiring left on the 4 star.
  11. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    That last H/L spot is the interesting one. Schlien easily fits. Have to broaden thinking to come up with anyone else currently riding (or who will ride UK) in 2021. Other interesting thoughts mentioned by a speedway friend are Bjarne P and Hans Andersen. Hans could be interesting - Why ??. He has a family and is getting older. Wants to ride as many leagues as poss at his age to maximise revenue. Now only signed in POL 2nd Div with Dauv who are in Latvia not POL. Not so many meetings in this Lge and does he at his age want to be tied to a max of 3 Lges. He could base bikes in UK and ride both Prem and Champ and still do his commitments in both DK & Swe where he has signed contracts. So 4 Lges. Has good sponsor support in Poole area so maybe they cold help in supporting him. Would only get a 9.26 converted Champ av so easily fits.Who go all the way to Latvia for say max 6 home and then 6 away in POl in a very weak looking team so doubt will make play offs, when he can get plenty of meetings in UK over Prem/Champ and use the equip two fold so base it here. Bjarne an option but would be 10.48 on a 1.6 conversion pushing Poole to the 2 star route. There is of course the possible DK fixture clash issue with both as they normally ride Wed. Anyway just thoughts even if maybe wild ones LOL.
  12. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Also think Keleher will be in main team as announced last year and Josh Mac at reserve with the rising star.
  13. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Damn it. Just announced by Redcar on their FB page and on now live. Thinking caps on again
  14. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    Rory was on 8.69 last full season at Somerset. If you were (just for this exercise) to take out Cook and work on Rory/Steve W/Danny K/Josh Mac/Steffan Niel / Zane Kell you get 36.92 (after deducting the 2.5% Brit reduction). We can build to 38 plus a 3 point rising star or 39 plus a 2 point rising star. Then comes down to who do we get as that rising star ??. A number already signed up from 2020 but we went down the strength in depth Aussie route. Anders rowe I would lovew to have seen as geographically right area IF he was assessed as a 3 pointer (why not as he is only 18). Or even a 4 but rules say has to be a 2 or 3 pointer rising star. Others on the forum indicate he has already signed elsewhere but not seen any announcements. Would help if us the poor paying public who keep this sport afloat (as it cant run without supporters in UK) could be allowed to see what looks like a top secret rising stars list. Like what harm could it do us seeing it ???
  15. STEVEHOLS54

    Poole Pirates 2020

    My thoughts are also Ben Cook out if his younger bro also not coming with Somerset not riding. Some on here said no way Schlien coming when I mentioned on here recently (seemed obvious move with Somerset closing). You could have had Schlien/King/Worral/Nielsen/Kelleher/Josh Mac plus a 2 or 3 rising star. Problem is the top six only at 36.92 which is a full 1.08 or 2.08 below the 39 point top 6 limit. Depending on a 3 or 2 point rising star). I suppose that's where the Bjarne Pedersen idea might come into play IF they were able to get a reduction. on his last 6.55 (Elite or now Prem) GSA from his last UK season in 2015. Could be way out of course but cant think of any really good H/L out there and available riding UK in 2021 not already tied up. My only doubt on Pedersen is if he is keeping DK which is normally a Wednesday (same night as Poole) and even if DK is reduced meetings in 2021 would it still clash plenty with Poole ?? Assuming of course Poole were riding at Poole in 2021 and not perhaps having a plan B in place to race down at Plymouth for a season if the stadium discussions go ** up. Some think that would be highly unlikely but can't help thinking that after all this time why the delay in adding Plymouth when they expressed even last year they wanted to join Champ. Hope I am wrong but nothing would surprise me.
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