Fortythirtyeight

but they gave up because the kit wasn’t cheap so …

The NL was never a threat to anyone just got its pay structure all wrong. You seem to forget that those mentioned teams , plus Lakeside and Cradley were the teams that paid way above and beyond the NL rates thus making it a ‘ professional’ paid league for amateurs and giving easy money to riders who shouldn’t have ridden at the lower level meaning the end of the likes of Buxton, one of the few clubs who ran the correct way for the NL. The lack of UK riders is because the higher clubs sought foreign riders far too often when British riders were available and so your average second strings and below simply gave up the sport.

Not really , it’s an opinion, just like yours. Scunthorpe do run many events for juniors Godfrey just doesn’t like the MDL.

Think about it….they have little choice.

Whilst you might not like his decision, it’s his track and his opinion and that has nothing to do with ‘nomadic teams ‘.

‘ searches ‘ are not considered acceptable advanced business plans by the powers that be. Good luck to you and I hope every ‘ ghost club ‘ comes back into being but until you have land that has been approved for use, then it’s just speculating as far the rules go. Anyway….back to Birmingham issues.

You do not seem to have understood his not very well phrased point. Yes, the teams will have been run by very enthusiastic individuals but out of those ‘ ghost teams ‘ how many were actually trying to find land and build a stadium to bring that team back into existence ? Answer : Probably almost Nil. Both Halifax and Castleford , who appeared in the NJL, had advanced plans in place and Halifax even had land secured before the schemes collapsed and both teams ceased to exist as an entity in the league.

Are you referring to the use of ‘ guests ‘ ? which some teams used more than others or the ‘ doubling up ‘ scenario that blights our sport ? Although riders in Poland ride in other teams in other countries too so not much difference but I do agree, in general, speedway has very little credibility now.

So little difference then. The ‘ winning ‘ fans are happy, the sponsors are happy and the club get a shiny trophy , only the scale is different .

An inaccurate post is an inaccurate post. Speedway is cheap compared to any other form of motorsport. As for schemes to make it easier to get into the sport , that has always been the case in British speedway, no one has ever said “ here’s a fee bike and kit , see how you go “ and it’s no different in Poland, no one gives you free gear there either ! Yes, they do give ‘support’ to youngsters but only those that show promise not to joe public walking off the street saying “ his a go mister “.

Just what is the ‘ relevance and reward ‘ then ? How is winning the league in Poland different to winning the league anywhere else ?

So your initial post was just to agree with someone who you knew was wrong ? What is your point ? If you or your family are skint then you aren’t likely to try to get into any motorsport and yes, a ball game is a lot cheaper so no comparison to speedway whatsoever.

But inaccurate as speedway is one of the cheapest forms of motorsport to participate in.

You obviously don’t get the thread ! The proposal was to have multiple novice kids having a first ever ride on a bike in the hour leading upto the main match with their parents getting in for free to bring new people and kids in which is what we were discussing . Not one competent kid doing a few demo laps !

Never claimed I had one but trying things that were done away with in the past for logical reasons is not the answer. We could try and stop kidding ourselves that we need a ‘ Premier ‘ division and a ‘ Championship ‘ when it’s near enough the same riders who just get paid more in one than the other. Do away with doubling up, make the lower divisions weaker, pay the riders less, especially the NDL, make them consider being semi professional and amateurs riding for expenses only, if, as they claim, they need big money, then those that want to be full time professional can aim for it. Bring the costs down for the riders and the fans. There you go, just an opinion as you have asked.

Read the relevant posts .

They weren’t done away with, the NJL has never stopped , the others simply ran out of ‘ ghost teams ‘ to fill them. There was nothing stopping the same riders being used by the host club but they simply weren’t interested in running juniors themselves so blame the clubs themselves not the authorities ( on this occasion ).

And ? One kid doing a couple of laps, quite quickly, is a totally different scenario.

So you want to go back to the ‘ old days ‘ ? Ask yourself why that was done away with in the first place . To provide more ‘ entertainment ‘ of the top level and do away with the mostly corrupt second half finals that were rigged by the riders themselves, as demanded by the dwindling fans who mostly walked out after heat 13.

If you bother to read the posts on the subject you will realise the suggest was to run it during the hour before the main match, Dave ran his at lunchtime, bit of a difference !

Believe me it isn’t feasible and yes, it’s been tried. A PL match was once put in jeopardy because the track concerned had the air fence damaged by an accident and the paramedics were then taken away to deal with the injured , never mind the last minute track maintenance . Have you ever watched a complete novice child try to ride four laps? Besides the painstaking time it can take, usually with an adult running along side to keep them ‘ steady ‘ how many kids are you going to get on track in an hour ? How many different size kits are you going to require? How many qualified ‘ trainers ‘ ? and so on and so on…. As someone who helps run a training school with hire bikes I do know a bit about what’s involved.

No, it’s ‘ Team ‘ strength control.

Then why suggest something that you know isn’t feasible? If Redcars attendances have increased year on year since 2017 then they must be attracting new fans mustn’t they ? I dare say the same goes for Glasgow and Berwick.

What ? Where do you watch the sport ? All northern tracks run second halfs and have done for many years , not just the NJL matches either .

Not feasible for many reasons including insurance, safety clothing, track time , costs etc , never mind the length of time it takes to kit / dress one kid out for a go on a bike without brakes.