Fortythirtyeight
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Because it’s on their doorstep and their gypo’s.
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Birmingham Brummies 2020
Fortythirtyeight replied to ProudtobeaBrummie's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
When Buster Chapman took over Leicester he didn’t pay the riders who were owed by the previous promotion, they simply never got paid. Happened a number of times through recent years. -
Exactly ! So why did you suggest a BSPL run ‘new club’ when they are struggling to keep their own individual clubs afloat ? The same people who failed to invest in the sport are still , in the majority, running the sport as the few , new, promotions with new ideas have no say in how it’s run so nothing is going to change hence the 2022 set up being the same as 2021 . Nothing will change till it implodes and then, hopefully , gets a complete overhaul.
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You think the BSPL have any cash for such a project or even the combined will to actually do something collectively for the ‘ good of the sport ‘ when most of them are struggling to keep their own clubs running ?
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The trotting track hosted the Long track meeting which Ivan and many other stars featured in, including Peter Collins, Don Godden, Simon Wigg etc. The A.C.U. have looked at the facility in recent times but it hasn’t gone any further.
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The thread is existing ‘ Stadiums ‘, that could host speedway, Redcar wasn’t a stadium, Northside ( Workington ) is not a stadium, both built from scratch on waste land.
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Number 8 for each team and Junior League
Fortythirtyeight replied to Flappy's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Let’s get a bit of perspective here, this is a press release saying….” We will be doing the same thing as we did last year, picking our own preferred ‘ youngsters ‘ and telling some other ‘ youngster ‘ your the non useable number eight for the night. We say we are going to have a junior league , same as we said last year, but we didn’t bother with it really and we may or may not bother again this year” Lets wait and see what actually comes out in the wash. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
The 5 year deal referred too was the deal that they terminated early in 2016. Yes, in speedway terms they did put a lot of money in over the 10 years ( 2 contracts ) and just what was done with it ? Divided by the top clubs to cover their ‘ costs ‘ with a little left over for the kitty and none invested in the future of the sport. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
No, it wasn’t. Yes, Sky paid a for a 5 year deal and did settle in full despite withdrawing early. The current deal is less than 3% of the Sky money. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
It wasn’t by a long distance and once it was shared out between the ‘top’ clubs the individual amount wasn’t enough to purchase the promoter a a Rolls but it did offset a large percentage of their running costs. The new money won’t buy them a decent second hand tractor with grader attached. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Your reading things that aren’t there, again. I never said ‘successful’ as second halfers obviously aren’t good enough, yet, to be in a team , any team, that’s why they are second halfers and as for the make up of the Wolves team….ask CVS or Mr. Adam’s….it’s their business. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Is he defending it ?, he hasn’t even mentioned the subject. You appear to have an issue with Wolves policy, that’s your opinion and your entitled to it.. I’ve never heard of any rider ever getting ‘ appearance money ‘ and I’m very experienced in clubs finances over the years. You may be getting confused with ‘ start money ‘ ( mainly done away with now ) or even a’ guarantee’ which is quite common with some clubs. As for promoting local riders, your track needs to have the track time available to do it, few do . I’ve seen many a ‘ second half ‘ at Wolverhampton over the passed few years so they are definitely trying. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
The ‘ masses ‘ won’t believe you as they know best. Very few outside the ‘inner circles’ of a speedway club have any understanding of the finances involved as many a post on here shows . Championship Riders on a £100 plus a point ? Vans , houses, bikes, mechanics, given free ? never mind flights paid for. Those clubs still getting involved in those things are the ones most often on the endangered list. -
Not sure what your expecting from the BSPL ? They have no money , no power except inside their own minority sport and haven’t shown a lot of interest in assisting other ‘defunct’ tracks , except Leicester when they were closing as there was a bit of self interest involved .We can hardly call any region a hot bed of speedway these days , maybe the north ? ( Belle Vue, Sheffield, Scunthorpe , Redcar, Newcastle, Berwick ).
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Birmingham Brummies 2020
Fortythirtyeight replied to ProudtobeaBrummie's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Whilst Redcars crowd average was up this year , as it has been year on year since 2017, it doesn’t get the four figure crowd that Birmingham appear to need but, due to good leadership, this is offset by very good club sponsors. Personally I think that’s not an achievable figure under the circumstances they find them selves in. Demanding Landlord, bad previous history in 2021 and will be putting a team together after every other club ? Recipe for another disastrous season? -
Scunthorpe Scorpions 2022
Fortythirtyeight replied to IronScorpion's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Try reading my post again….slowly. -
Oxford Cheetahs 2022
Fortythirtyeight replied to CowleyCheetahs's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
but 95% true as he is the Chairman of the BSPL who will have told them “ no more Friday night tracks “. -
Scunthorpe Scorpions 2022
Fortythirtyeight replied to IronScorpion's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Visa’s are not a BSPL issue, although they do check the club have one for the rider, it’s down to the rider and the employer ,the club. A correct visa can be voided for a number of reasons , by the DOE, change in circumstances perhaps or operating outside it’s parameters. -
Berwick Bandits 2022
Fortythirtyeight replied to emilali's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
That’s 12 riders the Bears have signed so far then. -
Birmingham Brummies 2020
Fortythirtyeight replied to ProudtobeaBrummie's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
He could be pleading for extra funds? extra help or going to tell the fans exactly what’s going on ? Best way to find out is by attending. -
British Speedway statement
Fortythirtyeight replied to MattB's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
So that’s Buster x 2, Bates, CVS, Louis, and Smith ( who we understand has tried to rattle the top table ) .As Godfrey was Busters right hand man and supporter , Bates has power in both divisions and the newest promoters don’t get a vote for 3 years, how do you think you can break up the boys club? -
Outside Poland which country do you think is healthy ? Sweden matches are mostly run infront of three figure crowds , the rest a lot less. Sponsors pay the for the clubs to run because of TV coverage. Long Track gets bigger crowds than speedway in both Germany and France , the others don’t even have proper leagues. Poland is huge because their football is poor in comparison to other countries and they price speedway correctly to attract family’s , that attracts sponsors, which brings cash , that attracts stars!
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I’m not naive in the way speedway is run , non of us have any choice of how the sport is run. We can simply not attended, that’s a ‘ fans ‘ prerogative but don’t kid yourself that fans are going to have a say on how the sport is run under it’s current set up. An independent body might change that . This ‘ conversation ‘ has gone on since 1928 when the sport was brought into the UK and has gone on , in changing volumes, ever since !
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It was ‘ silly ‘ because the powers that be will release news as and when it suits them, not the fans so what were you expecting ? a personal email ? Clubs have closed because of bad management , others for slightly different reasons , that has always been the case in speedway.Speedway is now a very minor sport, probably only fit to be called semi professional but just won’t accept it. Can you enlighten me what ‘ genuine supporters ‘ are addressing ? . Most are on this forum complaining about anything and everything and whilst I’m not going to defend the BSPL , it’s their money that’s keeping what little is left of the sport running so they are entitled to make whatever ludicrous decisions they wish until such time as an independent body comes along and sorts the mess out, if that ever happens. They will be the judge if 6 teams for 30 race nights is financially viable, not the fans. Meanwhile , they’ve told you what to expect, more of the same….
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Then please don’t make sweeping statements that aren’t true. Quite a few clubs do care and take great effort to encourage youngsters in the sport. Oh, and a local lad from Redcar travelled to Kent for his home meetings and we have a very young junior regularly attending Redcar sessions from Plymouth so, if your dedicated enough, there are opportunities !