HackneyHawk

Grow up

What have 'woke' people got to do with this???????

How on earth have you brought 'woke culture' into a debate about speedway tracks????

Why would it be up the BBC's alley? what's your point?

Why wouldn't you be able to call ladies, ladies?????

That's great thanks v much

Fab thanks, any info available on where and when?!

Think I would probably attend every week if the Rockets returned to first or second div speedway! Good luck with everything!

Hello all, will Iwade allow spectators? if so do you just turn up and pay to get in?

I was at Coventry once and asked the hot food stall for chips. The lady replied "we don't do chips - they're too popular" And that my friends is Speedway merchandising

That's a terrible example of merchandising, really poor but very Speedway

A brilliant post, I agree with every word. It is the team aspect and in particular TEAM RIDING that sets speedway apart from all other motorsports and needs to be capitalised on in order to save it.

Will definitely now bow out of this thread on the grounds that it is an echo chamber of old fashioned nonsense. Let's hope that Speedway i Having recruited many times at public sector institutions I'm afraid I don't believe this. It sounds a little bit like the made up anti PC stories that most of you forum users probably vehemently believe. These forum pages make for depressing reading in 2021 and it's a terrible shame that adults choose to believe and then write these laughable, childish anachronistic comments. My advice to you all, is to read a book, watch documentaries, talk to people outside of your immediate cultural circle and stop reading the Sun/Star/Mail/Express Hackney Hawk out (you'll all be pleased to hear)

I agree BV72 that there isn't a huge interest from people of minority ethnic backgrounds in motor sport. I don't twist things to sound bad because I find the whole thing frustrating and depressing and have no wish to make it worse than it is. Also, you are accusing me of being dishonest which is insulting and childish. Black people historically would not get a warm welcome in motorsport and would have to work harder at being accepted. Motorsport is notoriously unfriendly for white people let alone black people. This is a fact. The NHS have published recent data that says black mothers are 4 times more likely to die in childbirth than white. "Lead researcher, Prof Marian Knight, said: "Pregnant women get inequitable care for several reasons. "Healthcare professionals often attribute their symptoms to pregnancy alone and they do not always end up getting the treatment they need because people can be incorrectly concerned about giving them medication. "On top of that is the unconscious bias that black and Asian women can experience. It all adds up" If that is the NHS, can you imagine what black people face in sport? Your comments about some (a tiny number) of BAME people being involved in the sport is a bit silly. The exception doesn't prove the rule does it? You say we have taken different things from the thread and neither one of us is right........I'd suggest reading up on the history of race and equality in the UK from the early twentieth century until the present day. I'm going to have to disagree with you that neither of us is right. Unfortunately, as I predicted at the beginning of the thread I am a rare voice on a speedway forum about racial equality and I have horrible feeling that Speedway is in the predicament it is because of how out of step it is with the real (modern) world on many many isuues.

I couldn't resist reading the rest of this thread, it was just too tempting. Absolutely hilarious, better than even I could have imagined I would have said depressing but speedway fans (myself included) are older white men so these opinions are dying out and gradually society is improving and healing In response to the brilliant comment about Black people "NEVER" taking an interest in motorsport while one of the most successful british drivers and reigning world champion is a black chap, I could go on about it not being about black people being interested, it's about being given a fair chance......but I'll keep that to my snowflake, woke bubble

I will just quickly say though Ray you sound like you're being wilfully divisive and we don't need it on a Speedway forum. I'm sure there's lots of horrible little social media groups on which you already discuss this???

Oh jesus no, issues of race being discussed on a speedway forum. I can't bear to look but can I have a pound every time one of you says the word Snowflake? N.B: I am a snowflake myself, hence not being able to look

So if there were more 'domestic' riders then this would save speedway? Isn't the fact that no-one comes anymore and/or most stadiums are under threat of closure the most pressing problem???????????

Completely agree, with this. Who cares if riders are able to anticipate the start? Isn't it another skill for a rider to have?

Why are we discussing social housing?

What on earth does that mean and what's it got to do with Speedway???

Yes that is shameful. Terrible customer service. they may do that in football but Speedway should look after it's fans better than that Proper parades/intros - proper celebration laps from riders after every race - proper team laps after the meeting has ended, on their bikes with team flags without helmets NOT being taken round on the back of an old van!

I must disagree with this. Look at football, it's never off the telly and still gets good support. Even lower leagues get much better support than Speedway. Also other sports look at the Hundred in cricket etc etc. If TV coverage were handled properly then it would entice people to support a team and go to a live meeting.

I have to say that this is a fascinating and absorbing thread with fantastic contributions and points being made by knowledgable and passionate supporters of a once mighty sport. Any current or prospective promoters should sit themselves down in front of a PC with a big notepad and go through the whole thread making a plan for the future of Speedway!! Thanks all for a brilliant conversation, I've loved reading it.

I was going to vehemently disagree with your point Chunky because I so badly want Speedway to be credible, however American wrestling is massive and is not a 'real' sport!!