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How is this situation any different from an athlete taking a banned substance that he or she was given by their 'coach' which the athlete didn't know was tampered with? In that circumstance the rule is that it is the responsibility of the athlete to KNOW what they are putting in their body and the 'I didn't know' defence does not work! How is this any different from this case? As the person taking part in the sporting event it is the individual's responsibility to make sure they are competing legally. Therefore it is also the individual who must be punished for the breaking of the rules. It really is that simple...

I agree with this...it should be Dave King taking it apart as he would know how it should look - and hopefully did look when it left his workshop. However it should be done with an independent scrutineer overseeing the process imho.

Oh PULEEESE! Yeah its ultra quick bikes - probably with illegal fuel or additives if the tin foil hat brigade are to be believed - that allow him to perform the maneuvers that he can carry off. Were you even WATCHING the meeting tonight?!!!

I totally agree but the damn thing was there to be used tonight...and every team used it so no-one can say it wasn't 'fair'! The bitterness shown by some on here is totally pathetic...some people really need to grow up! POLSKA!!!

I can't believe that people are moaning about this meeting. Every team got to use the joker so there was no advantage there and Pedersen spends half his life on his backside anyway so the fall is no great surprise. No -one could ever accuse me of being a Pedersen fan but credit to him for getting off the track...people on here normally moan constantly about people NOT getting off the track! Fabulous meeting with some awesome racing...heat 25 was out of this world! Congratulations to Polska...and the wonderful Tomasz Gollob!!!

I was just coming on to post this...classy man our Fred!

I just looked up the word 'Bridger' in the dictionary and its defined as 'overrated tool' and 'arrogance far outweighs talent'. If previous 'incidents' with this plonker (and there are quite a few!) weren't enough evidence then this latest behaviour just shows what a complete moron he is!

I agree with most of this - except I'd love to see Tomazs win another title! I like American riders most of the time but Hancock is the one I never really took to. Of course the Cradley/Wolves thing is part of it but I didn't fee the same about Hamill...even before he rode for us! I would have had Billy in my team in a heartbeat but Greg...no thanks *yawn*

Did I say that he did? TBH On this occasion I'm very much in the 50/50 camp - probably more like 60/40 in favour of Pedersen - but that's irrelevant to what I'm saying. Its also with the benefit of hindsight...at the time when Nicki was doing his childish finger waving it wasn't clear exactly what happened. The finger waving was his cynical attempt to influence the ref and stir up the crowd. No way could he know 100% for sure that he hadn't caused Harris to fall off...lets be honest people can't even agree NOW whether he did or not! None of this changes my original point...have you ever seen Nicki say he was at fault when someone came off - even on those occasions when he was doing an impression of a bowling ball? Or to admit he dropped it?

Come on Shawn you should know by now that it is NEVER Nicki's fault...EVER! If he knocks someone off then they took a dive and if he falls off then someone else must have knocked him off...it was ever thus!

Have you approached Flymo? After all they did provide his bikes the year he rode for the Wolves!

You can always rely on Steve....

Steve can be a total wind up merchant but I think a lot of these posts are well over the top. Sure throw the Poole insults around if you so wish...that's all part of the 'fun'...but personal insults are against forum rules for a good reason.

OI watch it Shovlar! They're not like a pack of Wolves, more like a swarm of annoying insects!!! Bearing in mind that Bees are not that good at seeing things clearly and have trouble learning from their mistakes..they virtually beat themselves to death trying to go through a window and even when you try to help them go the right way they continue to bang their heads in their own way! They also stick together in a swarm following a 'leader' who takes them in stupid directions - like building their hives in unsafe areas. Funny I've never really understood the relevance of the nickname before...but this winter has really explained a lot!

Nah that'd be watching speedway at Brandon all those years Phil!

I came on this morning to see if the big announcment has been made...only to find there probably won't BE an announcment until after Christmas and the same old tedious arguments carrying on!

I agree - I hate the 'old gold' as our colour is proper metallic gold but that is probably more costly and harder to get!

I knew the wiki page would get you going...hence the tongue smiley (as in tongue in cheek!)! With regards to the 'orange' - I think you'll find its called 'old gold' which is the colour the football team play in. Wolves speedway traditionally tend to go for the more metallic gold colour but either is acceptable - and both are GOLD!

So what you're actually saying is you USED to be gold and black but now you're not! I rest my case...

Oh reeeallly.... Coventry Bees Wiki!

YELLOW! The Fleas colours are yellow and black...the real Gold and Black team have had NO arguements with anyone in blue!

I asked the question on page 2 about where has the '99% certain' stuff come from. Strangely the OP has not returned to the thread...unless they have a different log in of course! - and yet almost 40 pages later the same old arguments continue....zzzzzz