Parsloes 1928 nearly

Ah ha!!!!!! Now my little brain never even considered that possibilty!! Happy holiday!!!! D. PS any Flat Track on the programme..???!!!!!

An afternoon meeting midweek..?? Is that usual in Germany, iris..: seems a bit strange..??!!

Yes: it's Saturday 14th October at 7.30 pm

Oh right, I see. So when you sent me a number of PMs back in the days you pretended to be a Somerset fan (hilarious, BTW..!!) that fact that they were signed as follows meant what exactly..: "Yours sincerely Darren Holder (aka. Mr Wong)"...???!! Intrigued that you now call on Malcolm to stick up for you.. (been abandoned by your Mildenhall pals..??!!) Considering your public slating of the Boston prog. and its contributors, maybe you should ask Malcolm first before you use his name as some kind of defence for your nasty rants...? As Malcolm is a good friend of mine AND I am one of those main contributors to that "worst CL prog." I somehow doubt Mr. Vasey will be too keen to be your devoted advocate..??!!

Hmm, good point, iris!!!! There is Short Track as part of that motor sports programme at the Stade de France I believe, so who knows..??! And the quote is "fastest growing motor sport in EUROPE". You did know that Hyperbole is my middle name..??!!! Ron: There were three USA riders on the World Final rostrum in 1937; and I think that you'll find that there's been several examples of two riders from the same English club in a WC 1,2,3. But good to see far more positive vibes this time about a return of Speedway to Wembley..: don't forget that post-2012 they'll be ANOTHER huge (and under-used) stadium in the capital too..: and it's going to be (virtually) on the site of the old 'Ackney Wick track..!!

And Cardiff does..??!! I've lost count of the number of times there's been a thread on this subject and everyone comes along and rubbishes the idea of Speedway returning to Wembley. The boost to the sport of Speedway being staged at Wembley would be immeasurable. To turn down such an opportunity is to set the clock ticking for the countdown of the end of the sport in this country. I feel sorry for those starting up Speedway in Birmingham (as the country's Second City) if they're to receive the same sort of hugely negative response there always is when Speedway in London is attempted. Hackney 1996, Wimbledon 2002-'05: just nothing but criticism and zero support from the Speedway world and authorities. London CAN sustain Speedway (and for the future of the sport it MUST); but it won't happen if the Speedway world itself is so determined to ensure all attempts are sabotaged..

Isn't this one of the MOST extraordinary things..?? Why did they go to such elaborate efforts to stage Speedway in a venue that sadly never really staged it when they could so much more easily have used a track in an existing stadium??! But wouldn't it have been great (and unique) to have been at dear old Catford dog track as crowd extra when they filmed it..?? I wonder, is there anyone out there in BSF land who was..???!!!

I believe so. The meeting has a 3pm start time so an early start required for long distance travellers!

Well, what'd I say about norbold (to fill in some personal details..) is that he is a rather nervous car passenger...!!

Sadly the dog track in Romford could NEVER get Planning Permission for motor sports . Even if a track could be fitted in (it would have to be tiny..) the extremely residential location of the stadium (it's, uniquely, invisible from the neighbouring roads being literally at the back of people's gardens..!!) means they'd never have been even a glimmer of a chance of staging Speedway there... A few sites up on the A12 near Marks Gate/Harold Wood might, though, be suitable for a return of the Bombers..: but when push comes to shove might as well remember that Arena Essex is in a Romford post-code area so another track not really viable....

Never heard anymore on this. Do you know any details of this alleged link between Barking Park and the Ilford MCC's efforts to find an initial venue back in 1927, Norbold..??

Yes - I knew it was quite a lot later than '79 as I moved to the area in 1982 and it was open then. And of course the Greyhound Derby transferred there (for just one year as it turned out..) after White City's demise. Sobering to think that White City & Harringay were disposed of in such rapid succession. Who's to say this sort of culling by the GRA isn't about to happen again. Catford gone; Plough Lane teetering on the brink..: what's the future for Oxford & Belle Vue, I wonder..??!! And norbold..: was it Harringay then in 'TLGF'..??

Don't think Harringay closed as early as 1979 did it..?? I thought that perhaps the venue shown in the film was Walthamstow..??!!

If this is the case, then it provides irrefutable evidence that the GP is the biggest load of nonsense in the history of the sport.. It's clear that Andersen is currently the second or third best rider in the world: alright, Crumpie's the best but if Andersen had been in the series he'd be alongside - and probably ahead.. - of Jonsson in challenging for a rostrum position. By refusing him a place in the World Championship it has completely undermined the '06 title race. And as for the suggestion that he could still face exclusion in '07 even by finishing in the top eight (indeed, top three)..: well, there can be no stronger argument for scrapping the bankrupt GP system and returning to the BEST World Championship event in the whole of sport..: the World Final..

I've NEVER heard this before..!! Where have you got the story about Barking Park from..?? What was on this site then..?? At Parsloes, it was the trotting track being considered.. I'd really appreciate more details as - as a Barking & Dagenham resident myself - I have an embryonic idea about some kind of 80th. anniversary commemorative event around the fact that Speedway was NEARLY born in our Borough in what would have been late 1927.. PM me if you like..

The original venue proposed by the Ilford club for the meeting that eventually was staged at High Beech (Epping) was PARSLOES PARK not Barking Park. Close but no cigar!! Now of course the mystery behind my name on this Forum is out...!!!!

Seems to be an attempt to put back together the former Hackney Kestrels (sic) side for one last hurrah..!!! Can I suggest a late call up for Moggo..??!!

Need to be careful with the 30th. as until England have their last game tomorrow this COULD clash with a quarter-final match. Yes - I KNOW I'm talking football but can't see many promoters now being too keen to put on meetings in opposition to England WC games..

Well done Brendan!! IF we ever get to hear where ALL the Rounds are with a bit of advance notice will try and get along to some to cheer you onto victory!!

Er, well perhaps it had something to do with your comment (not at all 'malicious' I'm sure..??!!) in response to the thread asking people who their favourite posters are: Posted on: Jun 4 2006, 11:42 PM "Tigerstripes as he managed to get parsloes to stop posting his rubbish on the bsf" A fairly clear indication that you think what I post is, er, "rubbish" and you don't want me to post on the BSF. Time I think to bury the hatchet and I’m fully prepared to apologise for over-reacting; but I don’t think it’s right to claim that there weren’t postings deliberately aimed at trying to stop me posting and/or rubbishing my opinion on every subject…

How about having it as the LAST meeting of the 2007 GP season..? That way we might for the first time in a LONG time get to see the World Championship decided on the day - it'll certainly have the World Championship trophy presented on that occasion something that can never happens at the early season normal Cardiff date. By adding in just a couple more GPs (including say Russia…) the last one in '07 could be the 100th. wouldn’t it..? Sure we're talking September so possibly less warm than June and maybe on a par with March; but September always WAS World Championship time here in the UK.. As for suggesting London was never a 'proper' Speedway city..? How about consulting Norbold's book, then let's compare the number of tracks, meetings and paying spectators there's been in London over Speedway's history with the whole of Wales..??!! That's NOT any kind of dig against Cardiff, Newport or Wales BTW..: just putting the comments about London (clearly NOT a popular place with the majority of folk on this Forum) in perspective. Oh and before the Mildenhall fraternity rise up and have a go at me for posting on here (sorry if it’s “rambling” Messrs fentiger and tigerstripes) I AM entitled to make comments; and they are I think you find on subjects like these, somewhat more sensible than your nasty jibes..??!!

Gracious me..: great pix and great memories. I was a regular at Blackbird Rd. when at University in Leicester '78-'81. Where was that pic of Ken McKinlay on Cycle Speedway track taken..?? Amazing stuff!! The whole business of stadiums not being listed in this country is a national scandal. In Germany they preserve their stadiums - goodness me, the 1936 venue in Berlin is being used for the Football World Cup Final in a few weeks' time... Here we demolished White City without a by-your-leave and even the hallowed Twin Towers bit the dust. Frankly, once Wembley was demolished without a finger being lifted by English Heritage (the organisation that regularly prevents Council Housing departments from demolishing unloved, unliveable-in and ugly tower blocks), then it became 100% clear that no stadium in this country will EVER be rescued from developers. Blackbird Rd. was a magnificent place.

But this sucks doesn't it..?? Why on earth are the two races (just one race each..: poor!!!) so early...?? This can hardly even be called a pre-meeting event, it's virtually a different meeting event!! Much as I'd love to see Bren and the others have their ride it's surely asking too much for us to get inside the Stadiium two hours before the GP starts to watch just two races..?? What possible explanation can there be for this..?

Goodness me..: I feel we've been here before!!!!! I'll just say, what I've said before..!! Have 'em at both..!! The Welsh GP in the Millennium and the English GP at Wembley. IF (and it's a big-ish, IF) we ever got the chance to stage Speedway again at Wembley it would be INSANITY not to take that chance. As I've (often) said before too, though, IMHO it's the Olympic Stadium we should (also) be eyeing up as a GP (or better still, proper World Final!!) venue post-2012...

I notice from the (excellent) Scunthorpe web-site that they're holding a Round of this year's U-15 championships on 9th. July. Can't see any reference elsewhere to other rounds.. Does anyone know if dates/venues have been set for the championship as a whole yet..??