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  1. moxey63

    Celebrity fans

    I saw the Invisible Man at most tracks.
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    Speedway Promotion or Lack of it.

    If speedway had a sudden upturn in support, all new fans, how confident would it be of keeping them? It needs a big shake up, then new fans won't be put off by thinking there are, for example, two or three of Chris Harris, Scott Nicholls, Craig Cook. In fact, two or three of most riders. One rider, one team. Make it a serious sport before we pretend it has a chance, of not just attracting new fans but keeping them.
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    Speedway Grand Prix

    Surely footage of the 1976 Grand Prix is out there, somewhere. It was a great tournament. Obviously it shrunk in size after the initial two years. Each top flight track staged a round. In 1978 and '79 British riders' scores also counted towards British World Championship qualification. In 1980 I think there were just four rounds. But the summer of '76 was a special year, sponsors the Daily Mirror having reports of each meeting the following day. I even filled in the score grid published in Speedway Star for the 1977 rounds. Magic days.
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    One League - Matt Ford

    I saw a post on the internet from a British club prospective giving the thumbs up to three of its riders' scores for Polish clubs. One of the only ways speedway can return to attracting fans is to return British speedway to a sport where there's an affinity between rider and fan. How far it has drifted from this is surely shown by the example I started with. Celebrating your British club riders' score in another league is a bit like you, the fan, allowing your mate to take out your girlfriend because it reduces costs to you both and she gets the best of both worlds. In the meantime, she doesn't know if she's coming or going and yet is expected to give both of you her full attention. As her boyfriend, you, the fan, becomes disillusioned with it all and look somewhere else for your desires. There has to be loyalty. Otherwise, why, as a supporter, bother putting aside best part of a night to travel miles, pay a king's ransom to watch, witness two sides made up of somebody else's guys, feel a bit weird cheering on these fallas who are merely just borrowing your club colours... Speedway is just a sport filled with riders who act like they are on zero-hour contracts and will ride anywhere and for anyone. For starters, as a fan you have got to drink, eat and breathe your local club. You have got to hurt when the team gets beaten, worry when a rider is off form or injured... It has got to be that important that you bother showing up at trackside to support them. By allowing riders to spread themselves so thinly, we have lost much of the passion from fans to show up and support their so-called team.
  5. At least Redcar are putting in a bit of effort and trying to keep the fans they have. Perhaps a questionnaire could be sent out to all the fans who have stopped attending and find those reasons - and I don't mean just Redcar here?
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    TV new deal?

    I think they came in during the early-to-mid 90s. Although I suspect the costs of those were higher, there are a multitude of factors why we are where we are.
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    TV new deal?

    But football is properly run. No golden goal when a team is behind; no doubling up and down; players not commuting and facing burn-out and impacting overall performance for each team; no not knowing if the match is on or off, or what time it'll end; supporters getting to know their team for longer than a couple of weeks before musical chairs and the big shake-up for the play-off begins..... I could go on. Football has the clout because of SKY money; but SKY has the clout because of football. Speedway had its chance with SKY cash. But, as that annoying saying goes: We are where we are. Only Boris Johnson is allowed so many chances to mess up.
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    TV new deal?

    But, do you know what, I don't get upset with what Team GB do anymore. When you grew up supporting your local team first, then the riders who often went off in various directions for the British League Individual events, if England ( as it was at the time) did well, that was extra custard on your crumble. It was better of course if your club favourites - Peter Collins and Chris Morton - brought the World Pairs back for England and Belle Vue. They may look the part in their team suits, but I can't say I could gain any National pride cheering on Cook, Harris or Lambert. Would much rather roar on a local side in domestic racing.
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    TV new deal?

    Speedway is like that bloke, Michael Carroll, who won £9.7 million on the lottery in 2002 but blew it all within eight years and had to return to his old job as a bin man.
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    TV new deal?

    Two things that came from SKY's coverage which, I feel, damaged the sport: Golden Doubles and Play-Offs.
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    TV new deal?

    The SKY coverage during the first 10 years at least should have put speedway on a sound footing. Had real business people been running the sport, no doubt it would have done. For two-to-three years from 1999 there were real signs speedway was on the up. Crowds seemed to be improving and SKY really did recognise viewing figures were good for its network of channels. We had our faces painted and kids were let in for a quid on the evening SKY rolled up for a live broadcast. There did seem to be a hint of proper promoting by those who had lazily worn the tag for yonks beforehand. But it didn't really last. It drifted into being taken for granted, speedway being on TV every week, and sometimes twice. I felt the sport - promoters and fans - thought SKY and the influx of cash would always be there. We even began having long faces when certain matches weren't on SKY, despite all they had done for us. Fans began getting picky when commentators were pronouncing riders' names wrong, or if certain teams featured more than theirs. That afternoon SKY had its cameras set up for the Riders' Championship at Coventry, when the promoter was scrambling on the floor looking for the dummy he'd just spat out, that was the final nail for SKY. They had so many rained-off meetings towards the end, I believe they decided to cut their loses. They were a professional broadcasting company working within an amateur sport. They couldn't drag it up to their level. For example, how many times did live matches overrun? BT have only half-heartedly accepted it, but we should be thankful for small mercies and not start bickering of who's doing a bad job and who you'd like to see on the panel. I often look at some of the dross SKY are covering during the summer months and cannot believe how the sport messed up its opportunity and is no longer featured. As a fan, I don't really know the ins and outs. But I do recall the amount of money SKY used to shell out setting up all the gear, and then the match was washed out. They aren't a charity and won't put up with it. BT also. I look at speedway, 20 years after SKY could have saved it, and see a dangerous shortage of riders with clubs having to share them, like the last cigarette being passed around by kids behind the bike sheds. I see clubs going weeks without a match in the height of summer, which will surely mean some fans will simply get out of the habit and get used to the cash in their pockets. Meanwhile, fans are expected to tune in to the GPs and see many of the riders (or their type) who put two fingers up at Britain and merely used it like a Tom Cat when the female was in season. Fans are expected to turn up trackside and support riders in their team who aren't even their riders. It's like visiting someone in hospital you don't know and wishing them to get better. It's not someone you know and love. In fact, you ask yourself why bother turning up at the bedside every week to wish someone you don't know get better. Looking at British speedway right now, I see remnants of what might have been, ghosts of live matches on SKY and all the missed opportunities. That could have been the sport's saviour. It should have. But look at it now. How many lives does it have remaining for British speedway to mess up?
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    TV new deal?

    I have the meeting from Russia on in the background. Thank go I don't have to keep putting 50p in the electric - I'd be skint by now. It has gone on for too long. I doubt very much that youngsters will put up with such drawn out events. Like watching the Eurovision - and, yes, we don't have a chance in this either.
  13. There would clearly have to be some form of migration period. Obviously, my main concern is the plight of British speedway. Perhaps riders investing so heavily in current engines are really, to be blunt, the reason the sport is heading for the iceberg. It isn't Formula 1, it is a working class sport, the next step up from grasstrack racing. If a different engine is introduced to help cut costs, surely the riders with a backlog of banned engines could be able to use them abroad or even trade them in with someone racing abroad. We are talking cutting costs here, and surely any rider would want that? If you are going to use the argument of riders having a back-jam of engines they won't be able to use, we'll never get beyond this point.
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    Value for money

    The lower the crowds are, the more expensive admission will be and the more it'll alienate hard up supporters. Much of the admission money, I may be wrong, will be paid by the promoter to the rider, who then pay a fair amount of what he has just earned to keep his engines in pristine shape. It is money going out of the sport and league speedway will not be able to withstand it for much longer.
  15. Just watched the 2-valve race via YouTube. You cannot tell any difference in speed. If rolling back to 2-valves cuts costs and ultimately slows down speedway's decline, then what's stopping it, even for domestic racing if nothing else? There is too much money going out of the sport because of what we all thought was just progress and faster engines.
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