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  1. lucifer sam

    Scunthorpe 2019

    Wonder if we should actually start a 2020 thread for this http://www.scunthorpe-speedway.com/?p=9607 That's what you call forward planning!
  2. lucifer sam

    More season 1979 queries

    Ht 11: Barker, Hack, Naylor, Hooper Ht 13: Naylor, Hack, Barker, Hollingsbee
  3. Track in fine condition and prepared to take the rain today. All systems go for tomorrow.
  4. Forecast looks fine for Sunday. Come along and give Ricky Ashworth a cheer.
  5. lucifer sam

    Your club's all-time top team

    Rider with the most misspelt name in British Speedway... Mike Broadbank. Mind you, if he was bothered about it, he would have pointed it out to the editor of the Swindon Speedway programme.
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    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Sid, no need to get upset. It's just a discussion. I know people sometimes wind you up something rotten, nobody is trying to do that on this thread. We simply disagreed regarding Billy Sanders being a major threat to Erik & Hans at Bradford in 1985 and subsequent finals.
  7. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Indeed - Lance was young enough to come on strong again after signing for Bradford in 1986. He didn't reach another World Final after '85. You can't blame him for deciding to make some money from speedway, and prioritise that before chasing World Championship success. I was just adding another IF
  8. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Correct. Billy's best chance was in 1984, around his beloved Gothenburg, and he was nowhere near. Sentiment makes you want to believe he could have won a title, but for his tragic demise. Logic suggests otherwise.
  9. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    If Lance King had stayed at Cradley in 1985, and the flow of his career not been interrupted... There's another But here's a counter IF... IF Erik Gundersen hadn't been seriously injured, what would have happened? At the time of his injury, Erik looked like capable of winning more, while Hans had won three out of the last four titles. So what were we looking at? Erik a 6-time champion and Hans a 8-time champion? The other way around? How long into the 1990s would the domination continued, with a fit Erik and an unfettered Hans?
  10. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    And indeed Penhall, Carter and Sanders did not pick up career-ending speedway injuries either. The only one from Sid's list to be ruled out by injury was Sigalos. The rest ruled themselves out, one way or another.
  11. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Sid, some of those riders were still around at the start of the Erik/Hans domination period and couldn't do anything about it.
  12. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Sorry, don't buy that Sid. With the possible exception of Dennis Sigalos and given that Penhall actually chose to quit speedway (there weren't any other circumstances in his case), none of the above would have troubled the domination of the two Danes between 1984 and 1989.
  13. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    I agree. Billy's big chance was around his favourite track in 1984, and he was nowhere near. He'd already been well-and-truly eclipsed by Gundersen and Nielsen in that meeting.
  14. lucifer sam

    Your club's all-time top team

    That was the last home meeting. At Reading in the evening, he trailed around at the back of Heat 13 and then refused to go out in Heat 15, and Aaron Lanney blasted him over the PA. Todd Wiltshire was ready to come in, so Rickardsson's stint was ended two weeks early. As I said, I think his interest in speedway was already slipped. It slipped further when Crump started giving him a good hiding in the GP series.
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    Your club's all-time top team

    Tony Rickardsson got booted out of the team two weeks early and was replaced by Todd Wiltshire. The first meeting with Todd was a home win over Coventry, with the team spirit completely transformed. To be fair, I think Rickardsson had already lost interest in speedway – with hindsight, he should have retired on top of the podium in 2005.
  16. lucifer sam

    Your club's all-time top team

    I was mulling including Leigh Adams of Greg Hancock for Oxford. But, at the end of day, Todd Wiltshire rode for six seasons with Oxford, rather than two or three, and god knows what would have happened he had not come out of retirement in 2006. I don't think we'd have lasted that season. Todd was a loyal servant to Oxford - there was also the time he missed GP practice to ride for the club. The only "short term" Oxford rider I included was Ron How. But he was No 1 of a treble-winning-side in 1964 and the club's first World Finalist that same season.
  17. lucifer sam

    Your club's all-time top team

    But it would be a bit daft for e.g. an Oxford fan to pick Tony Rickardsson, just because he did a handful of appearances for the club. I'm sticking with what they've done for the club.
  18. lucifer sam

    Your club's all-time top team

    I think it has to be for the club.
  19. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Good point. Yes, both Sanders and Carter had peaked. In the case of Carter, he peaked in 1982 at the age of 21. He could look quite ordinary by 1985. I remember him score just a point in an England v Denmark test match at Oxford.
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    Your club's all-time top team

    1. Hans Nielsen 2. Marvyn Cox 3. Simon Wigg 4. Ron How 5. Arne Pander 6. Todd Wiltshire 7. Ronnie Genz
  21. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    In terms of Sigalos v Les Collins, I agree - Sigalos was definitely ahead. I was simply pointing out both slipped back a bit after the narrower tyres came in. Sigalos is the most interesting of the "What ifs" of the top riders ruled out during the 1980s, and perhaps the one who could have given Erik and Hans their hardest run for their money (although IMO they would have still been ahead - the signs are already there in '83). Although not in 1984, because even had his ankle been OK after his American Final fall, Siggy was out of contention with just 4 points from 3 rides. It is an interesting "What If"?
  22. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    If you're going by success, it's strange you include a one-time World Champion Tommy Price, but not his immediate successor Freddie Williams, who was a two-time champion - indeed Williams is one of only three multiple British World Champions. Surely Williams should be higher than Carter or Morton?
  23. lucifer sam

    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    He still had a fantastic average in 1983, but Sigalos was less notable on the world stage that year. I was convinced he'd win at Norden, but he looked pretty ordinary in the mid-field. He was still the rider I wanted Oxford to sign in 1984, when it was announced we had money to spend on top riders. I was wrong there - Hans Nielsen was definitely the correct choice! With hindsight and greater knowledge, I think the narrower tyres in 1983 hurt Sigalos and Les Collins the most. Maybe because they weren't quite so sharp out of the start. Sigalos had looked rather magnificent on the wide Carlisle tyre in 1982. He and Schwartz looked untouchable in the World Pairs Final - I remember the hand signals and that kind of stuff during that meeting. And yet they meekly surrendered that title in '83. Erik and Hans also owned DS in the 1983 WTC - both beat him 2-0 in the comp. Sigalos was a firm favourite of mine. But I think the Danes were in front of him by the time of his injury. And within a couple of years, the competition between Erik and Hans propelled them further forward. I'm not sure if Siggy would have broken that stranglehold, but it would have been interesting to find out.
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    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Although it should be pointed out that Nielsen and Olsen agreed a truce to allow Nielsen to ride in the 1985 World Team Cup Final in the USA. That's the thing - the Danes would argue amongst themselves, but always pulled together when they needed to. They wouldn't let it stopping them winning Gold Medals!
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    Tai Woffinden Best Ever!?

    Before Oxford moved up in 1984, Sigalos was my favourite of the top riders. To me, Hans and Erik moved up a gear in 1983, moved up again in 1984, and moved up once more in 1985. I'm not sure if Dennis Sigalos would have been on quite the same level as the two Danes.
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