Roger MARTIN
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Lewy I hope we are not going to bend the rules like Poole did this week with North lol
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It's OK,I know why. Your not the only person in the know,you know! ;-)
Everybody knows you dick-head.
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Where and when did they claim that? I would like to read it,thanks in anticipation.
He's living in his own little world lewy
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With Poole at BV on Monday, no Newman at Glasgow!!
Ex Tigers skipper Theo Pijper in for Kyle Newman on Monday at Glasgow.
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nothing wrong with Plymouth pal
Keyboard warrior Nick.
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To be honest you could have taken Risager out and it would have done the same, but saying that, by the time we get the next set of averages, Risager will be at reserve, and Simota will be back in the main body of the team again, so it's swings and roundabouts.
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Tell you what, you've got to tip your hat to Covatti who showed a great attitude and character.
Plymouth was never going to be a good track for him and he scored a single point there with Sheffield last season.
A single point from his first three rides with the texter labelling him as "all over the place", a lot of riders would have just accepted that it wasn't a track for them and let their heads drop.
But Covatti is obviously made of sterner stuff and after probably making a few changes, came out and won a couple of important races just when we needed them.
I had reservations at the start of the season I'll be honest, but although there's still a lot of racing left this season, so far he's been a terrific signing and a shining light in a poor start for the team.
His first two rides on Friday at Plymouth were shocking, when he came out for his last two heats, he was a complete different rider, won them both going away, used every inch of the track in doing so.
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What a great little rider Jason Garrity is, his move to stop Ryan Fisher in heat 15 was the move of a much older rider, a rider for the future for sure.
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Dilger is an EU rider (German I believe). The point Simmo1958 was trying to make was that some non EU riders (i.e. some Aussies/Yanks) that can't get a visa are better than the EU ones who don't need a visa to ride here. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
Very true Steve, that would only change if we get out of the EU, then what would happen.
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any craic on the visa situation and can anyone tell/advise me how to quieten/stop squeaking floor boards in my house. any clues on both queries greatly appreciated . ta..
Stop putting money under them, there not the same when you put them back.
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Give me strength!! Somerset don't ride in the National League
Give me strength!! Somerset don't ride in the National League
Well I never, I didn't know that, so Somerset are not interested in Australians until they are proven in there own Country.
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That's the point isn't it - it did make them better, which is exactly the point... We don't want to make them better! They can do that in their own Country and then when they are good enough they can compete in the higher leagues. You're constantly contradicting yourself.
So are you, you don't want Australians coming into this Country to make them better, but you don't mind them riding for Somerset to make them better, you're doing the same, your full of it.
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Exactly the reason they shouldn't be allowed in the National League - a League designed to develop BRITISH riders
You are now using Starman logic where you start argueing against yourself.
No you said something that's not true, when you said using the NL to make them better is an absolute no starter, when it did, we all know the league is designed to develop British riders, that's why Jon Armstrong and Tony Aitkin are still riding in it, do you mean all British riders, or young British riders.
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How to completely miss the point in 2 paragraphs
No one is against Australians riding over here, matter of fact I think 99.9% of people think it's a great idea - if they are good enough and not some dud like we have seen in the past. Using the National League to make them better is an absolute non starter.
Says you, did you say that when they were allowed to ride in the NL, so it didn't make Ward, Dyer, Summers better.
What, no warning that they were going to enforce rules that have been in place for 5 years?
What rule is that.
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That's the whole point - if they don't qualify then stay home and get better so they are good enough to qualify. Not come over, get better in our leagues and then carry on into Europe after using us as a training base.
And you knew that was going to happen, they have been doing that for years, but not all have been good enough to do that, and what riders go to Europe and not stay in the British league, all riders want to ride in Europe, not just Australians, Kyle Newman will be riding in Europe this year, its not stopping him from riding in the British league, yes they do use the British league has a stepping stone, but who is to blame for that, and your not happy if an Australian uses Somerset has a training base, and get a 7 or 8 average on the way, and helping you win the league in doing so.
I'm not against a standard for riders coming into this Country to ride in the British league, but this will just shift from Australia to the EU, and we will get overated riders coming into the league from there, and that's not going to help British speedway, I have been a critic of to many Australians coming into the league in the past, but you have to admit if it wasn't for them the league would I feel be less interesting, some of the best riders I have seen around the SBA at Plymouth, have been Aussies, Jason Doyle the best of them, but to just drop this on them, with no warning they were going to do it, is in my opinion is not helping anyone.
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Todd Kurtz the rider with the British parentage?
The likes of Joey Ringwood, Harley Horwood, Jayden O'Malley and Kurt Shields are not allowed to ride in the NL. And apart form one season (which it's entirely possible the UKBA/UKVI were not aware of) never have been.
Did I say he didn't have British Parentage, my question is why, the year you are talking about, when Australians were in the NL, was in my opinion a good year, since then the league has before a joke, i'm not saying that all Australians that want to come over should be allowed to ride in that league, but it would be a good league for some that want to come over with a lower cma, instead of saying to some that don't qualify, end of you cant come over.
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You said it was rare for an Aussie to go straight into the PL. I think 1 season in nearly 20 of the NL running is the very definition of rare.
Tod Kurtz had three seasons at Newport, 2009, 2010, and 2011, now that was rare.
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Thats just not true. Apart from one season when each teams was allowed to sign one work permit rider so Dyer, Sedgemen, Mark Jones, Ward and a few others were allowed to ride NL, Aussies have not been allowed to ride NL. Until about 2010ish they had to come in on a 7 in the PL and until 2001 a 9. So you only had the decent ones. They made it 5 and Glasgow signed anyone with an Aussie accent up in the hope of striking it lucky. They must have signed about 8 or 9 Aussies since the rules let them in on a 5 and only Grajzonek has got the 5 - they struck it lucky with Mason Campton in that Workington bought him off them for some odd reasons. Between the rest of them I don't think they got a 4 pointer average!
Did I not say one season in the N.
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I would hope a promoter would know he was rubbish before he used up 7.00 of the points limit on him.
At least your giving an opinion Alan, your right you would think a promoter would work out the riders that he would want, and not waste 7 points in doing so on a rider the year before was on a much less cma, but some are so stupid, and like SCB said they will still take them on just the same, clubs take a chance on any rider when they come over for the first time, four of five years ago it was rare for a Australian rider to go straight into the PL before having at least a season in the CL has it was known then, and that's down to clubs thinking every Australian is another Chris Holder.
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I'm sorry if this has been answered already...... Which non eu riders are okay to ride despite not finishing fourth or better in their state champs or being 7+ ?
In short who's qualifying via residency?
Also, does the likes of Mathew Wethers have any future career in speedway? He wasn't 7+ last year so clearly won't be 7+ this year. How does he ever get back in? Of course it's easy to argue perhaps he never should but this isn't a one season chancer. I've read he's married a Brit and has a family with her.
If the lad hasn't been given a visa for this year, then I can't see him getting one in the near future.
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As I understand it finishing in the top 4 of an Australian state championship is one route into Britain. How seriously are these state championships taken by the riders? Would riders who have already achieved a 7 point average deprive fellow Aussies the chance to race in Britain?
Good post, it is good to do well in your own championship, but knowing you will come over know matter what standard you are, because some British speedway clubs think you are the best thing since sliced bread, is a good fall back for them, but that looks to be a thing of the past now, and some may say the league will struggle for riders this year, and will depend on riders from the EU that would never be considered, and we will have to put up with that for this year, but that will make sure that we have only the best Australians coming over, and they will know that they will have do much better in there State Championships, in order to come over, and that in the long run, can only be better for British speedway, having good riders coming in the league, and not riders who have failed for years, but come back every year, just the same.
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I can post a link to the previous criteria which has stood since at least 2009 - which as I've said all along Jack Holder and others don't qualify under that criteria.
So, I've answered your question, how about you answering mine - how does Jack Holder qualify for a work permit now, when he failed previously?
Where's the link then, you say he failed before, when did he apply before for a work permit, or are you saying he didn't qualify before, i'm just asking Najjer, just wondering why Somerset were interested in him, if like you say he didn't qualify for a work visa to come to this. Country
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Rusty Harrison doesn't have a visa. So I was right.
Great to see your not confused on that one, anymore gems you can enlighten us on
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scb is is usually pretty spot on
Did I say he wasn't, i'm just sorry he's confused, can't be happy not knowing what everyone is doing.
Plymouth 2016
in SGB Championship League Speedway
Posted · Edited by Devildodger
Pick your dummy up, because two people have a go, you throw your dummy out, I know what you have put into the club, and I would believe more what you say before a so called person in the club now, who should take up politic's, why didn't you buy the club, then sort it out and run it like it should be run, if you feel the way you do, I do think that the way the club has treated, after you have bailed them out, is a disgraced.