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Thanx for the memory Shirleybee-Ron and Colin Gooddy were two tough sons of guns-Ron always put on a good show at Newport also

Hi Britmet-thanx for the comprehensive info-wish I could have been at a few PLRC finals-partic the 64 one !!

In the Internatinale thread was interested in Norbold's posting.First he let slip that he is 2 years younger than me-aaghh!!!-I can't be that old can I(no problem 60 is the new 40). Secondly and more interestingly wonder if you could share us your recollection of that night Norbold e.g. was there a big crowd-did Trev Redmond really stand out , who else made an impression etc. Am v. interested in PLRC and its great to hear from someone who was at the first one at Harringay.

Matt-does it include year of birth and death(where applicable) for each rider?

Tough on Michanek I thought-why not re run it??

That's right midland red-the garage was at Bloxwich-thanx also starghost for reminding us of the unusual situation re reserves for 63 World Final-I'd completely forgotten that. Jim Lightfoot used to be known as Captain Jim-not just because he was the Bees capt. but I think there was a movie called that in the early 60's-funny how Jim seems to have disappeared-recall him riding at Long Eaton after he left the Bees.Incidentally does anyone know when Ron quit riding.

OK RONBUTLER-in your case we will make an exception and just knock 10 years off -making you 65 so you get to keep all your privileges-having said that even tho you claim to be only 75-do you recall anything about Ron Mountford or Jim Lightfoot as per other thread??

engine man-that is right that Ron had a garage and Rick worked there-how did Rick seem when you saw him that time. I think Jim is still alive but nobody seems to know much.Interestingly enough all 3 of these bees had one World Final app. -Ron as noted in 62, Jim in 63 and Rick in 67.

OK that must be the one that Trevor Redmond won-anyone know who was second and third.Also why it was held at CH-after that the venue was always neutral

This is a good thread-BUT does anyone know anything about Ron e.g. when did he die, the circumstances etc etc. I got the same result when I asked about Jim Lightfoot once-come on you old Bees fans-Ron was a big name in his day and shouldn't be forgotten!Somebody's got to know something.

Spin king-the father of Stuart could have been Jack Mountford-but definitely not Ron I reckon.

Don't think they were related spin king.

Thanx starghost-forgot that-do you know when Ron was born??

I am interested in this myself-I recall Ron was one of the first riders to wear contact lenses-he got to the 1962 World Final I think-I recall he and Rick worked together. Did Ron leave any family-he was a tough customer as I recall-I think he rode only for the Bees. Thank you engine man for bringing Ron's name to this forum-another somewhat forgotten name from the past who should be remembered.

Thanx Norbold-you are still younger than me-just not by as much as I thought!!!.One point- if you saw the 61 PLRC at Harringay-where was the 1960 one held-was that at Harringay also??Anyway despite your letter to SS and N all those years ago, am still glad , as a PL supporter that Charlie won the Internationale in 1965!!!!!The fates conspired against him in the Brit Final at West Ham later that year-he should have qualified for the World Final!!

I think I must be getting too old for the forum-questions about the 70's and 80's are cropping up(after my time in UK)-so here is one from the sixties-what has happened to Geoff-his name has cropped up tangentially(good word) on other threads here- e.g. most teams ridden for; Newport speedway etc.I recall Geoff getting his first max around 64 or 65 for Newport-he partnered Dick Bradley till Dick's career ending injury, then not sure for the rest of 65 but certainly in 66 he partnered Gote Nordin-then went to Poole in 67 or 68 I think.Geoff was a cockney I think-had an armchair style of riding-hope he is still in good health .

Mystery deepens-perhaps Osama Bin Laden was around then too!!

I'm sure many folks must recall the Russian bikes being stolen prior to the 72 WF-subsequently some British riders were charged -and I think convicted- of this dastardly crime. I know that Tony Clark(a tough character -was one)-anybody recall who else and what subsequently happened-anybody go to jail for that??

You're right Parsloes re the year and reason for first Internationale-I recall a huge surprise in 65 when Charlie Monk from the old Prov. Lge. won it

Hi Odd-how old would Geoff be-70 or so?? What is his favorite falling down water-so I'll know what to buy him if I run across him in a pub-is he drinking like Soren Sjosten or like Billy Graham!!

Martin Mauger who was the financially challenged rider you were referring to? Was Mike Broadbanks involved in the Russian bike thing or is my memory playing tricks.

Wot about Leo McAuliffe, Alf Hagon,certainly Ron How-most famous of all I'd say.Going from memory here.

Have e-mailed Vic -will let u know re reply.

Thanx Kev -anybody know where he is now??

Did Vic run a car dealership for a long while??