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how much do you think to sponsor elite league and premier over 3 years?? how much is it really worth??

We are organising a surprise 60th Birthday Party for my Old mans birthday August 30th in Felixstowe Suffolk. Open invitation to anyone who remembers him or followed his career, ex team-mates etc. Message me for more details, those who cant make it I was thinking of getting a book made where people can send him messages, perhaps some blasts from his past etc. Cheers

He doesn't have the Internet so he will not know a thing

I was going to say the following 1) Clubs don't own their own tracks 2) Facilities are Poor 3) Too many week-day meetings 4) Too Expensive I think for the "good" of the sport to progress it shouldn't be about the number of GP riders, also If you take into consideration the PL there are not enough riders to go around without doubling up which in an Elite League you don't want to see.... One Solution would be to "Promote" an 3-Tier system with an 8-Club Elite League For example Kings Lynn, Poole, Swindon, Coventry, Lakeside, Woolves, Belle Vue & Eastbourne.... Races Home and Away = 14 meetings, then after 14 meetings places 1-3-5-7 & 2-4-6-8 meeting Home and Away again bringing the total number of meetings to 20 meetings in a regular season. The team finishing Top of the League Advances to the Play-Off Final, 2nd place directly into the Semi Final, 3rd & 4th directly into a 2 legged race off to race against 2nd in the league etc. so minimum number of meetings 22 to the team finishing Top, 26 to a team finishing 3rd/4th but getting into the final. CATCH.... After 14 meetings when the new mini fixtures come out, the results between 1-3-5-7 and 2-4-6-8 also go into a "ghost" table, with the teams finishing Top meeting at a Neutral venue to race for the "Elite League Cup". It gives teams/fans something to race for over those mini fixtures... Premier League North and South Leagues consisting of 8 teams per league Same Format as Above.... Winners of the Play-Offs from North/South to gain promotion to the Elite League with two teams dropping down Premier League Cup - all 16 teams into the same hat, two legged meetings until there is a final bit like FA Cup Football. North/South will hopefully lead to more attendances as its less travel for supporters and less travel costs for riders etc. No more Averages.... Have a "pool" of riders Pool A - B - C - D A - Teams can select one rider from each pool i.e. No.1 Heat Leader B - Teams can select two riders from this category to action as 2nd/3rd Heat Leaders C - Main Body riders non-reserve D - Reserve/Development riders

SCB - I dont know but everyone seems to think that these TV companies pay to provide coverage for sports, in reality its only the mainstream sports that receive any money, Speedway was fortunate enough that Sky Sports wanted to sponsor as well, I know in BSB they do not have prize money as this is put towards TV coverage and riders/teams feel with TV coverage they can gain more income via sponsorship. In BSB teams feel they wont get good sponsors if there is no TV coverage which is spot on - this is why the series is/has been supported by some big companies

I believe that in reality Elite League clubs should have had taken just "one draft rider" not two, at made them ride at no.7, with a select view as back up to cover injuries etc. This way the club could work with one british youngster and bring him on throughout the season instead of putting two eggs in one basket. I think solely working with one rider over the season would bring that rider on leaps and bounds, do we just want to produce average riders which is what will happen dividing time between 2 riders per team, or do we want to produce more world class level riders, i think we would have more chance doing this solely concentrating on one per team

If its similar to the BSB deal, then Sky wont pay anything to GO Speed for the deal, however they will cover the production costs of filming so many meetings etc. Its now down to Go Speed to use this deal to attract investment in the form of sponsorship.

has it ever been tried to mix it up with team mates running out of gates 1 & 2 and the opposition running out of 3&4 in a few heats??

Maybe to keep things simple just allow 3 substitutions between riders 2-7 throughout the meeting if your 6 points or more down, only one tactical ride per rider etc. works in other sports just thought how good it would be to be able to play with the oppositions side, or instead of maybe removing an opponents rider, maybe a "tactical switch" where they can swap riders rides lol

How about 1) If a side is 10 points down they can nominate a "Golden Substitution" where they can replace a rider in the opposite team in one heat i.e. remove no.1 and replace with no.3/5 2) If a side is 6 points down they can nominate a "Silver Substitution" where they replace a rider in their own team to try and get back into the meeting can only use Gold/Silver rule once each per meeting - i.e. maximum 2 subs per meeting. It will keep the other team manager on his/her toes only allowed between heats 5-12

British Superbikes do not get paid for their coverage, their coverage is provided LIVE free of charge to enable teams/riders to gain sponsorship, riders/teams forgoe prize money in order to have the TV deal in place, as its more valuable to them.

maybe Poole are on the brink of losing a big new sponsor due to tv coverage delay.... so Matt Ford has.... given someone a rope to run with?

There are a few companies putting money "out there" at the moment... You have either got to look at a company that is cash-rich such as QuickQuid or Wonga or alternatively you would have to look at a more industry-lead back in the shape of maybe a tool company like Milwakee or Teng Tools etc. I am sure there are lots of options if the brand exposure on offer was right to one of these corporates

worked in my old mans days in the 80's local team local riders with one aussie

a promoter can be successful by signing one exciting crowd pleasing rider from ANYWHERE, and then filling the team with local talent within an acceptable radius of the stadium. I promote events, and apart from die-hard fans of my sport, people only flock in numbers if there is a personal touch to the event i.e. their mates are racing.... I#m not saying the team would be successful but its more than likely that the gates will be more successful. have an in-house PR guru who has access to all riders facebook and create events to all meetings and invite, 7 riders 1000 friends each, 7000 notifications about the event, hire a photographer, take photos with club promo babes on arrival, upload to the clubs facebook after each meeting, allowing people to tag each other - they then appear on their facebook accounts and their friends see and say "wheres this, i'll give it a try" and so on.... it works

BT have the motogp coverage

BT (British Telecom) Sport will be showing LIVE coverage of the BT British League. Two nights per week...heard it here first....

I think there is no argument now at Foxhall, if you want to "SIT" either do so at the front, or go and sit in the granstands, those who turn up early doors with their deck chairs then errect them at the back of the terracing is quite frankly an idiot.

take British Superbikes, Eurosport do all the filming, its well presented good commentators, not great presenter but you cant have everything. How is this possible? British Superbike riders do not get prize money, this is put towards filming to riders/teams can attract sponsors. BSI/BSPA etc. need to PAY Eurosport to cover the Elite League for a season, attract a sponsor for the league and instead of it going to the teams, it offsets the cost of the production.

or on milk cartons... "Missing" nationwide spectators from British Speedway Tracks....

BSPA should stream everything LIVE on Youtube/Facebook from every meeting for a season - for Elite League that is, see what happens...

Mixy230 - god bless your soul for being the first to contribute, it may have taken 6 pages worth of replys but we got there in the end.

I am sure someone has lol dont know the background of the whole KKS saga anyway, perhaps that can now take over this thread, who is this KKS character?

each way money for top 2 indicates Swindon or Poole.... swindon are questionable at reserve, Poole have more questions than Swindon, Kings Lynn on paper look like the only team that could potentially upset the apple cart but it depends as said above if they all fire, if they do they are dangerous, so i've put tonight £125 each way on Kings Lynn to make the top 2 - I believe the people who have the questions will want to prove a point... lets see

MrCTS - his Leicester days were before I can remember, I only remember the 8 years at Exeter I have seen a couple of leiceter races at Kings Lynn on Youtube and one at home against Hans Nielsen etc. Wish I had all the meetings on DVD really.