lucifer sam 3,953 Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) Surely the crux of the matter is that they should be enough opportunites at this level for the riders that need them. Any rider who was already 15 on January 1, but still without a NL place, should be allowed to compete. It's not that important who actually wins the championship (although I'm not belitting the achievement of those who have for one moment). It's far more about the experience picked up and how that can be used to help the rider with the progression of their career. All the best Rob Edited April 6, 2009 by lucifer sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Saint 186 Posted April 6, 2009 Very harsh words Malcolm. I know both you & I are old Stalinists, but really you're taking your thought-police doctrines a bit far here... I don't necessarily disagree with opening the competition up nor have I said that. It was just your well spun theory that it was harder for a rider to have a birthday in August than February which I have proved is patently untrue. ie a February birthday could mean NL speedway for a rider from March as the distraction from the U15 Championship whereas the problem you state for an August birthday does not become effective until the U15's is almost complete. Yes we are old stalwarts and love an argument but yours is flawed this time surely Derek. Come on admit it for once!!!! Malcolm Vasey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted April 6, 2009 I don't necessarily disagree with opening the competition up nor have I said that. It was just your well spun theory that it was harder for a rider to have a birthday in August than February which I have proved is patently untrue. ie a February birthday could mean NL speedway for a rider from March as the distraction from the U15 Championship whereas the problem you state for an August birthday does not become effective until the U15's is almost complete. Yes we are old stalwarts and love an argument but yours is flawed this time surely Derek. Come on admit it for once!!!! Malcolm Vasey It's a simple point. Why, only yesterday I was talking to a father of a lad competing in the U-15s and he said to me (with zero prompting on my part..) how good it was that his lad was 14 in Feb and so will be able to have two whole years in the 500cc championship. His lad has, despite his age, NEVER ridden a 250cc.... Actually I think it's true to say that Marc only switched to 250cc coz he was forced to, early last year to compete... So that's from the horse's mouth so-to-speak... Have a birthday in Jan./Feb. sort of time, have two years in the 500cc championship. Have a birthday in August, have just one year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryn 413 Posted April 6, 2009 There's a simple solution surely and that is better family planning by fathers who have any hopes for a son of theirs to become British Under 15 speedway champions of the future! Whatever 'cut off' date you have, someone will be unhappy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Saint 186 Posted April 6, 2009 So that's from the horse's mouth so-to-speak... Have a birthday in Jan./Feb. sort of time, have two years in the 500cc championship. Have a birthday in August, have just one year... But that's not the point you were making, Just leave it Derek - I'm off for a spin. Oh no - I've just had one. Malcolm Vasey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted April 6, 2009 But that's not the point you were making, Er, yes it was!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted April 6, 2009 So that's from the horse's mouth so-to-speak... Have a birthday in Jan./Feb. sort of time, have two years in the 500cc championship. Have a birthday in August, have just one year... Good grief, Parsloes, it's the Under-15 championship. It's a nice thing for a young lad to win, but winning is certainly not the be-all and end-all. The important thing is the experienced picked up. Don't have a period, Parsloes. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhilK 150 Posted April 6, 2009 Surely the crux of the matter is that they should be enough opportunites at this level for the riders that need them. Any rider who was already 15 on January 1, but still without a NL place, should be allowed to compete. Excellent common sense approach to the situation some of these lads find themselves in Rob Of course by applying common sense you know the likelihood of it being taken on board by the sports administrators as a proposal is Nil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted April 6, 2009 Don't have a period, Parsloes. All the best Rob Hurray...: you finally got it right!! I'll teach you teen-speak yet!!! We can celebrate this break-thru' over that pint you're buying me on Sunday!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted April 6, 2009 Hurray...: you finally got it right!! I'll teach you teen-speak yet!!! We can celebrate this break-thru' over that pint you're buying me on Sunday!! (Parsloes is now getting excited so) Don't have a boner, Parsloes Parsloes, depending on what the weather is like on Sunday, I may or may not put my trip to Mildenhall back to April 26. But whatever the case, I will get you that pint on my trip to West Row. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
771neil 31 Posted April 8, 2009 Well at last we have had invite to u15 7 rounds which are 2nd may scunny 23rd may newport 13th june weymouth 25th july buxton 13th august i.o.w 22nd august kings lynn 19th september northside training track was told so far 5 500cc have said yes and 8 250cc confirmed before people ask i ve had all this confirmed by graham reeve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steven101 103 Posted April 8, 2009 Hey All, I got a letter through sent it off but it didnt have any information about the 22nd August @ Kings Lynn . So i dont know, I ride a 250cc by the way . If someone has more information on this please could you tell me. Many Thanks Steven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhilK 150 Posted April 8, 2009 Certainly hope there is a round at Kings Lynn Steven101, be good to have a couple of rounds relatively close to travel to (KL & Scunny)! Hopefully next year Mildenhall will put themselves forward for a round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy james 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Well at last we have had invite to u15 7 rounds which are 2nd may scunny 23rd may newport 13th june weymouth 25th july buxton 13th august i.o.w 22nd august kings lynn 19th september northside training track was told so far 5 500cc have said yes and 8 250cc confirmed before people ask i ve had all this confirmed by graham reeve Should be an exciting Championship with all 5 riders on 500cc bikes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p'boro lad 2 Posted April 9, 2009 Hey All, I got a letter through sent it off but it didnt have any information about the 22nd August @ Kings Lynn . So i dont know, I ride a 250cc by the way . If someone has more information on this please could you tell me. Many Thanks Steven Copy of e-mail from graham reeve recieved a couple of days ago:- Hi More good news Aug 22nd 3pm at Kings Lynn as well. Can you do it ? Best Regards Graham Its shaping up to be a nice long series of meetings this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites