SwineTown 4 Posted November 4, 2010 Planning Committee Tuesday, 9th November, 2010 6.00 p.m. Venue: Swindon Borough Council Chamber, Civic Offices Contact: Iain Tucker Telephone 01793 463605 email: itucker@swindon.gov.uk Link: SBC Page LINK: Plan of proposal Item 14. S/07/1365 Outline application for the demolition of existing stadium and construction of new stadium, with youth training facilities, 16,745 sq.m. of business (B1) floor space, a care home and 450 no. residential dwellings Access not reserved Abbey Stadium, Lady Lane, Swindon pdf icon PDF 216 KB Additional documents: * 2. AIR PHOTO 07 1365 Abbey Stadium and Business Park Lady Lane Swindon, item 14. pdf icon PDF 328 KB * 3. EXISTING SITE PLAN 07 1365 Abbey Stadium Business Pk Lady Lane Swindon, item 14. pdf icon PDF 574 KB * 4. ILLUSTRATIVE MASTERPLAN 07 1365 Abbey Stadium Business Pk Lady Lane Swindon, item 14. pdf icon PDF 722 KB * Appn 9 S_07_1365 Abbey Stadium update and reaffirment inc Feb 08 report, item 14. pdf icon PDF 264 KB Sorry if this has already been posted - been off-forum for ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedcarRacer 228 Posted November 4, 2010 Hmm, so is this good or bad? Sounds about like Reading to me, and with that new housing estate nearby would be highlu suspicious of this. Good luck to the Robins with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted November 4, 2010 Who knows if it's good or bad. I think the one thing in our favour is that the current stadium doesn't get demolished until the new one is built I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted November 4, 2010 Thought all this had been dealt with and the new stadium HAD to have a new track to get the required planning permission. Might be worth contacting that MP again who gave support to make sure he is aware of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted November 4, 2010 Interesting. I thought this had already been approved two years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted November 4, 2010 Hmm, so is this good or bad? Sounds about like Reading to me, and with that new housing estate nearby would be highlu suspicious of this. Good luck to the Robins with this. I'm with you on that , councils and developers are definitely not to be trusted . Long Eaton and Reading are 2 recent lessons to be learned . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwineTown 4 Posted November 4, 2010 After a difficult season with some lower attendence, the club looks very vulnerable to me right now. I only found out about this because I was posted a notification direct from SBC due to previous contact and comment. AFAIK there has been: (1) NOTHING on the main Robins site or forum. (2) NOTHING in the local press (3) NOTHING on local radio (4) NOTHING via this forum Glad to be proved wrong on above BTW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dornier 794 Posted November 4, 2010 Not that chestnut again ! next it ll be that belle vue chestnut . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwineTown 4 Posted November 4, 2010 A few key extracts from the new application: ----- ii. The application was considered in February 2008, having first been deferred by committee in September 2008. Officers re-established contact with the applicants on the 4 January 2010 to advise that under Article 25(11)(a) of the Town and Country Planning (General Development Procedure Order) 1995, the Local Planning Authority could be minded to dispose of the application as more than six months had passed since the expiry date of the application with limited progress made towards engrossing the legal agreement. 4 The applicants subsequently confirmed that they were still committed to the project but owing to the effects of the recession which had caused serious problems for the commercial and residential markets, the viability of the development had been brought into question. The applicants now seek a variation of the draft condition 4 to extend the maximum period for the submission of the first reserved matters application after grant of outline planning permission from 3 years to 5 years. Furthermore they wish to vary condition 5 to delay the start date of implementation of the first reserved matters approval from 3 years to 5 years of the date of the planning permission. Link: http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/Published/C00000281/M00004359/AI00023128/$Appn9S071365AbbeyStadiumupdateandreaffirmentincFeb08report.docA.ps.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwineTown 4 Posted November 4, 2010 At the February 2008 committee and following detailed negotiations at officer level, an overall package amounting to some £2.6 million was agreed as part of this application. The applicants argue that in light of the economic crisis, the viability of the scheme has been seriously impaired and “could not carry the additional burden of increased costs brought about by further contributions under the Section 106 agreement”. 22 At the time that this committee approved the application there was a shortfall in the amount of contribution the Council requested versus what was ultimately agreed of some £1.13 million. This gap has now increased to around £2.62 million. In light of the view expressed at the time that the future of Speedway at Abbey Meads was under threat, Members agreed to accept the lesser package in respect of the housing which would act as enabling development for the construction of the new stadium. Whilst the Speedway continues to operate from the site, it is clear that the facilities are grossly out of date and continues to deteriorate. It is acknowledged however that despite fears that the sporting facility would close if planning permission was not given for the residential element of the scheme, the Abbey Stadium and its associated uses has nevertheless managed to stay operational for the past two and a half years but continues to deteriorate as a facility with the Swindon Robins remaining as an Elite League team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiesta 3 Posted November 4, 2010 Wouldn't trust stadia uk (gaming international) In anyway. Hate for Swindon to become the next Milton Keynes and Reading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philfromcov 326 Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) having just read the document, they want to extend the period of "doing nothing" from 3 to 5 years, so nothings going to happen. # plus the costs the council now want has almost doubled what the devloper wants to pay. i would suggest that nothing much will happen until 2015 at the earliest Edited November 5, 2010 by philfromcov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted November 5, 2010 so nothings going to happen. Exactly my thoughts.... I would advise fans need to read the application carefully, just in case, there are any other changes that could effect the continuation of speedway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobxski 23 Posted November 5, 2010 Thought all this had been dealt with and the new stadium HAD to have a new track to get the required planning permission. Might be worth contacting that MP again who gave support to make sure he is aware of this. Justin Tomlinson is his name and he is now a Member of Parliament for North Swindon. He was canvasing a few weeks ago for the upcoming local elections and I mentioned about the work he did for the Robins a while back. He was keen to emphasise that nothing would progress with the developement if speedway and the dogs were not allowed to continue and they had the support of the council so fingers crossed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BritPete 625 Posted November 10, 2010 I couldn't see this anywhere else, so I have put it in here. http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/8627404.New_life_breathed_into_stadium_plan/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
