andout 651 Posted April 9, 2020 I have seen all but Payne, Close and Crutcher.....at least I don't remember them...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,717 Posted April 9, 2020 Would anyone know the DOB of Olle Andersson ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickthemuppet 976 Posted April 9, 2020 I have seen all on the riders on the list including Arthur Payne .I first saw him two years before he made a world final and remember his name very well when he rode for Birmingham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,101 Posted April 9, 2020 3 hours ago, andout said: I have seen all but Payne, Close and Crutcher.....at least I don't remember them...... Did you go to the 1960 World Final by any chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andout 651 Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, norbold said: Did you go to the 1960 World Final by any chance? Yes I did, it was the first World Final I ever went to.....I was a young'un. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,101 Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, andout said: Yes I did, it was the first World Final I ever went to.....I was a young'un. I thought you must have done - it was the only way I could see that you would have seen Josef Hofmeister but not Brian Crutcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andout 651 Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, norbold said: I thought you must have done - it was the only way I could see that you would have seen Josef Hofmeister but not Brian Crutcher. Testing me were you norbold? LOL I really don't remember too much about it though....but I was struck by the name of Hofmiester even at that young age. The first World Final I really do remember was 1962....with my childhood hero winning. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Split 177 Posted April 10, 2020 20 hours ago, andout said: Testing me were you norbold? LOL I really don't remember too much about it though....but I was struck by the name of Hofmiester even at that young age. The first World Final I really do remember was 1962....with my childhood hero winning. I was also there in 1962 and heat 6 stands out in my memory as it involved four of the so-called 'Big five' of the 60's with Ronnie Moore missing out. Peter Craven came second to Barry Briggs in that race ahead of Knutson and Fundin but he was unbeaten in his other 4 rides and became a deserved world champion on the night. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,087 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) On 4/7/2020 at 11:26 AM, tigerowl said: I've had a look at this today and it does get more difficult as time goes on as there are a number of Swedes who rode in World Finals who I haven't got a date of birth for and I don't know if they are alive or not but my best guess would be: 1. Arthur Payne 30.8.1924 2. Dick Bradley 28.11.1924 3. Chum Taylor, 4.4.1927 4. Eric Boothroyd, 26.4.1927 5. Derrick Close, 13.5.1927 6. Billy Bales, 6.6.1929 7. Olle Nygren, 11.11.1929 8. Rune Sormander, 29.11.1929 9. Jack Geran, 10.12.1929 10. Ian Williams, 4.8.1931 11. Per Tage Svensson, 16.10.1931 12. Peo Soederman, 29.10.1932 13. Ove Fundin, 23.5.1933 14. Jim Lightfoot, 11.11.1933 15. Dan Forsberg, 25.3.1934 16. Josef Hofmeister, 25.6.1934 17. Brian Crutcher, 23.8.1934 18. Mike Broadbank, 25.9.1934 The three Swedes who may be on the list are Olle Andersson, Ulf Ericsson and Joel Jansson but I haven't got enough detail to include them at the moment. Hi Matt, I just noticed you are missing Ray Cresp (born August 25, 1928). On the original thread, Ray was missed out there also! So, he would come in at No. 6 ahead of Billy Bales. Incidentally, can anyone confirm the correct spelling of Mr Close? I was always led to believe it was the standard "Derek" (and it was always published as such), but in recent years, I have seen both "Derick" and "Derrick", mainly on here... I still think it is likely to be "Derek". Edited April 13, 2020 by chunky 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 466 Posted April 13, 2020 Re the update and inclusion of Ray Cresp-who is still in good shape and in touch with Reg Fearman- I must admit I didn't notice his omission so thanks Steve-it also means I have seen 9 of the World Finalists not 8!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigerowl 630 Posted April 14, 2020 Thank you for the update. I didn't realise Ray was still with us but I'm delighted that he is. Sorry for the typo with Derick Close, that is the correct spelling with one r and ick at the end 1. Arthur Payne 30.8.1924 2. Dick Bradley 28.11.1924 3. Chum Taylor, 4.4.1927 4. Eric Boothroyd, 26.4.1927 5. Derick Close, 13.5.1927 6. Ray Cresp, 25.8.1928 7. Billy Bales, 6.6.1929 8. Olle Nygren, 11.11.1929 9. Rune Sormander, 29.11.1929 10. Jack Geran, 10.12.1929 11. Ian Williams, 4.8.1931 12. Per Tage Svensson, 16.10.1931 13. Peo Soederman, 29.10.1932 14. Ove Fundin, 23.5.1933 15. Jim Lightfoot, 11.11.1933 16. Dan Forsberg, 25.3.1934 17. Josef Hofmeister, 25.6.1934 18. Brian Crutcher, 23.8.1934 19. Mike Broadbank, 25.9.1934 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 3:32 PM, BOBBATH said: Re the update and inclusion of Ray Cresp-who is still in good shape and in touch with Reg Fearman- I must admit I didn't notice his omission so thanks Steve-it also means I have seen 9 of the World Finalists not 8!! Me too!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted April 16, 2020 Can confirm Derick is the spelling registered for his birth record! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,087 Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Midland Red said: Can confirm Derick is the spelling registered for his birth record! So, years of being fed the wrong information in the press? Good thing that couldn't happen today! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOBBATH 466 Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 7:07 PM, tigerowl said: Thank you for the update. I didn't realise Ray was still with us but I'm delighted that he is. Sorry for the typo with Derick Close, that is the correct spelling with one r and ick at the end 1. Arthur Payne 30.8.1924 2. Dick Bradley 28.11.1924 3. Chum Taylor, 4.4.1927 4. Eric Boothroyd, 26.4.1927 5. Derick Close, 13.5.1927 6. Ray Cresp, 25.8.1928 7. Billy Bales, 6.6.1929 8. Olle Nygren, 11.11.1929 9. Rune Sormander, 29.11.1929 10. Jack Geran, 10.12.1929 11. Ian Williams, 4.8.1931 12. Per Tage Svensson, 16.10.1931 13. Peo Soederman, 29.10.1932 14. Ove Fundin, 23.5.1933 15. Jim Lightfoot, 11.11.1933 16. Dan Forsberg, 25.3.1934 17. Josef Hofmeister, 25.6.1934 18. Brian Crutcher, 23.8.1934 19. Mike Broadbank, 25.9.1934 Thanks again Tigerowl-I think your list is now the definitive one-hopefully it will stay this way for a long time. Amazing how many World Finalists in their nineties are still around. they must be tough old birds!!. Incidentally Reg received a note from Marion Cresp-Ray's wife. Despite having some heart surgery a few years ago-he's fine, living in Melbourne and enjoying pottering around in his garden under the beautiful Aussie sunshine!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
