norbold 7,106 Posted March 4, 2004 I can't answer that because I am currently lying down in a darkened room.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shoddy 1 Posted March 10, 2004 Can I have a fantasy world final? 1. Barry Briggs 2. Peter Craven 3. Ove Fundin 4. Erik Gundersen 5. Vic Huxley 6. Bjorn Knutsson 7. Ivan Mauger 8. Jack Milne 9. Ronnie Moore 10. Hans Nielsen 11. Ole Olsen 12. Jack Parker 13. Bruce Penhall 14. Tony Rickardsson 15. Bluey Wilkinson 16. Jack Young I'll go for Jan O Pedersen and Anders Michanek (1974 final form) at reserve. Mentions to Peter Collins, Vic Duggan (dominant over a couple of years after the war but I don't think enough evidence to put him in for me???) and Jason Crump (just to see if he could still come second in this lot?!?). Anybody disagree??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted March 10, 2004 Anybody disagree??? Yeah. On 1974 final form Anders Michanek would have probably beaten the lot of 'em. How about Egon Muller on 1983 form? That would upset the applecart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shoddy 1 Posted March 10, 2004 Hans Nielsen on the second day of the two day final in Holland (was in 87?) would have given 74 Michanek a run for his money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted March 10, 2004 (edited) Vic Duggan (dominant over a couple of years after the war but I don't think enough evidence to put him in for me???) Anybody disagree??? Yes. Duggan would make the tractor ride let alone the final! Edited March 10, 2004 by norbold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,972 Posted March 11, 2004 Vic Duggan (dominant over a couple of years after the war but I don't think enough evidence to put him in for me???) Anybody disagree??? Yes. Duggan would make the tractor ride let alone the final! who else would be on the tractor then Norbold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted March 12, 2004 Fundin and Mauger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest philherne Posted March 12, 2004 I cant believe so many "All Time Greatest Teams" not featuring the Greatest Speedway Rider ? I'm a Birmingham fan and I have to admit that Bruce Penhall is by far the best rider ever! Pure Class! and also I noticed a Poole side without Sam Ermolenko? C'mon, there's speedway and then there's SPEEDWAY!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,972 Posted March 13, 2004 (edited) What about an England vs Sweden test series England ...... Sweden Peter Collins ...... Ove Fundin Jack Parker ...... Tommy Jansson Michael Lee ..... Olle Nygren Peter Craven ..... Anders Michanek Kenny Carter ..... Soren Sjosten Tom Farndon ..... Tony Rickardsson Tommy Price ..... Bengt Jansson Edited March 13, 2004 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted March 13, 2004 (edited) Think I would almost agree with those two teams iris. though I would probably put in Bjorn Knutsson instead of Soren Sjosten. And remember old style Test teams were 8 a side, so I would add Split Waterman for England and Gote Nordin for Sweden. And how about Australia v. USA: Australia 1. Vic Duggan 2. Vic Huxley 3. Bluey Wilkinson 4. Jack Young 5. Jason Crump 6. Billy Sanders 7. Max Grosskreutz 8. Lionel Van Praag (Could have Leigh Adams and Ryan Sullivan at 7 and 8?) U.S.A. 1. Bruce Penhall 2. Jack Milne 3. Cordy Milne 4. Greg Hancock 5. Billy Hamill 6. Wilbur Lamoreaux 7. Sam Ermolenko 8. Sprouts Elder Edited March 13, 2004 by norbold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,972 Posted March 13, 2004 (edited) Think I would almost agree with those two teams iris. though I would probably put in Bjorn Knutsson instead of Soren Sjosten. And remember old style Test teams were 8 a side, so I would add Split Waterman for England and Gote Nordin for Sweden. And how about Australia v. USA: 1. Vic Duggan 1. Bruce Penhall 2. Vic Huxley 2. Jack Milne 3. Bluey Wilkinson 3. Cordy Milne 4. Jack Young 4. Greg Hancock 5. Jason Crump 5. Billy Hamill 6. Billy Sanders 6. Wilbur Lamoreaux 7. Max Grosskreutz 7. Sam Ermolenko 8. Lionel Van Praag 8. Sprouts Elder (Could have Leigh Adams and Ryan Sullivan at 7 and 8?) I was trying to come up with 5 venues for the Tests,Norbold.Any ideas? And i must admit i forgot all about Knutsson .It`s also interesting that you name Split Waterman as i was considering Eric Langton,Norman Parker,Brian Critcher and Ron How for the England team but had forgotten about him, temporary.Just as well your writing the books and not me! Edited March 13, 2004 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted March 13, 2004 Hmmm...now you mention him. Eric Langton could be the one. Venues? In England: Wembley, Odsal, Custom House, Hyde Road, Plough Lane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,972 Posted March 14, 2004 Think I would almost agree with those two teams iris. though I would probably put in Bjorn Knutsson instead of Soren Sjosten. And remember old style Test teams were 8 a side, so I would add Split Waterman for England and Gote Nordin for Sweden. And how about Australia v. USA: Australia 1. Vic Duggan 2. Vic Huxley 3. Bluey Wilkinson 4. Jack Young 5. Jason Crump 6. Billy Sanders 7. Max Grosskreutz 8. Lionel Van Praag (Could have Leigh Adams and Ryan Sullivan at 7 and 8?) U.S.A. 1. Bruce Penhall 2. Jack Milne 3. Cordy Milne 4. Greg Hancock 5. Billy Hamill 6. Wilbur Lamoreaux 7. Sam Ermolenko 8. Sprouts Elder I would have thought a place in the USA side had to go to Scott Autrey .Personal opinion i know but through riding ability alone i think he was riding against far better opposition than say Billy Hamill and if it wasn`t for his determination to battle it out against the speedway authorities we might not have even heard of Penhall,Ermolenko etc.Lied to when told he could enter the World Championship in`73 and then basically ignored by the U.S authorities because he stayed here.Was it Mauger or Briggo that had to battle for his inclusion in the U.S side when the World Troupe visited.Superb rider .And no Aub Lawson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted March 14, 2004 I came on here this morning especially to say I couldn't believe I'd forgotten Aub Lawson! I see you've beaten me to it, iris!!! Yes, definitely. Aub in for Max Grosskreutz I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mosh pit Posted March 23, 2004 WOLVES TOP TEN WOULD HAVE TO BE 1)Ole Olsen 2)Hans Neilsen 3)Sam Ermolenko 4)Dennis Sigalos 5)Mikael Max 6)Peter Karlsson 7) Ronnie Correy 8)George Hunter 9) Jim Mcmillian 10)Garry Petersen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
