luluthetiger 221 Posted November 6, 2013 Leaving the NL clubs (and Glasgow, who really seem sadly doubtful) out of it, if there was total integration and a strictly north-south divide, you would have: North: Belle Vue, Berwick, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Redcar, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Workington, Leicester,Peterborough and Wolverhampton. South: Birmingham, Coventry, Eastbourne, King's Lynn, Lakeside, Poole, Swindon, Ipswich, Plymouth, Rye House and Somerset Which is why any such talk of "one big league, split north and south" will never fly. Plan B, anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,358 Posted November 6, 2013 I'm sure prices could be reduced to Premier League type rates.....oh wait. It has been Elite in name only for some time, same as the Premier again in that regard.I'd like to see a couple more teams move up, but only if it can be afforded. Ipswich moved down and have managed to stabilise by all accounts so wouldn't want to see that work undone. But if the top league (whatever name) is able to become realistic on running cost then there's no reason a couple of the better attended second tier Clubs couldn't make the move. More likely than the one big league we saw in the early-mid 90'sIf the GP men and the other no1's were missing then one big league might be the way to go.Doubt it will happen though.Difficult times for the sport IMO.I Personaly don't think many PL promoters would relish moving up.We shall see though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,949 Posted November 6, 2013 If the GP men and the other no1's were missing then one big league might be the way to go. Maybe two big leagues. 14-16 in an enlarged top flight but with lower costs (so 4-6 teams would move-up), and the rest in the National League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,358 Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe two big leagues. 14-16 in an enlarged top flight but with lower costs (so 4-6 teams would move-up), and the rest in the National League.That is more likely if they can persuade enough PL TEAMS to move up.Having been round most of the Northern tracks last season the crowd levels suggest it would be a bit of a gamble especially if a couple of Northern Teams made the jump and took away some of the Northern "local" derbies which does seem to attract travelling support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 617 Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe Leicester, Ipswich, Somerset, Rye House and Plymouth joining a weaker top flight making 15 teams. Leaving the 8 northern PL teams to have a small league where they play each other twice. The National league would remain as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normski 1,315 Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe Leicester, Ipswich, Somerset, Rye House and Plymouth joining a weaker top flight making 15 teams. Leaving the 8 northern PL teams to have a small league where they play each other twice. The National league would remain as it is.so us northerners get 14 league meetings a season, while the top flight get 28 on a home and away basis don't think this will be the answer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted November 6, 2013 and thats where the lite league falls apart. fans dont want to see the same visiting team every 3/6 weeks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,949 Posted November 6, 2013 Two leagues of 15 or 16 teams would generate 28-30 fixtures just riding home and away once. Variety and probably enough meetings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kester 3,015 Posted November 6, 2013 and thats where the lite league falls apart. fans dont want to see the same visiting team every 3/6 weeks Bit of a fallacy this. If I had the time I'd break down the stats, but I'll wager that there's actually far less difference in the number of times teams are facing each other in the EL and the PL. How many times have Worky faced Newcastle or Edinburgh this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 617 Posted November 6, 2013 so us northerners get 14 league meetings a season, while the top flight get 28 on a home and away basis don't think this will be the answer When I say play each other twice, I mean home and away twice so It would also be 28 meetings Two leagues of 15 or 16 teams would generate 28-30 fixtures just riding home and away once. Variety and probably enough meeting but could teams like Buxton and IOW afford to compete with the likes of Workington, Edinburgh and Newcastle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ancient mariner 540 Posted November 6, 2013 I guess it depends on ones definition of what constitutes 'Elite'. A small number of riders demanding crazy fees for participating in a league that patently cannot generate the revenue necessary to fund those wages = ruin. Frankly I care not a fig who rides, so long as I see competitive racing. Surely that is what provides entertainment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boobs 140 Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe two big leagues. 14-16 in an enlarged top flight but with lower costs (so 4-6 teams would move-up), and the rest in the National League. Sounds awfully like the con-trick perpetrated on the lower division by a failing top league at the end of 1990........ 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,253 Posted November 6, 2013 What about Slough? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
comet49 314 Posted November 6, 2013 Surely I. O. W wouldn't be competing with Workington if there was 2 leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
comet49 314 Posted November 6, 2013 Surely I. O. W wouldn't be competing with Workington if there was 2 leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites