frigbo 518 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) No i haven't, Parsloe. I said i have no interest and won't be putting any time to collating info. You want to supply them? Crack on!! Edited November 26, 2013 by frigbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted November 26, 2013 don't ever go to this site Parsloes, or you may have a seizure http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/about.htm A record of international speedway meetings, but the site owner has excluded the world pairs. I've just had to be talked down from a high building, been prescribed some heavy duty meds, and have a few years intensive counselling booked in... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frigbo 518 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) don't ever go to this site Parsloes, or you may have a seizure http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/about.htm A record of international speedway meetings, but the site owner has excluded the world pairs. I've just had to be talked down from a high building, been prescribed some heavy duty meds, and have a few years intensive counselling booked in... Disgusting!! Edited November 26, 2013 by frigbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) don't ever go to this site Parsloes, or you may have a seizure http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/about.htm A record of international speedway meetings, but the site owner has excluded the world pairs. I've just had to be talked down from a high building, been prescribed some heavy duty meds, and have a few years intensive counselling booked in... Disgusting!! I think you will find the site is dedicated to international team racing. That's fairly clear by looking at what is offered. Edited November 26, 2013 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted November 26, 2013 I think you will find the site is dedicated to team racing. That's fairly clear by looking at what is offered. and how dare the site owner decide that a pair is not a team. what an insult to the likes of collins, morton, gundersen, nielsen etc. who won this event. especially when the name of the site is "internationalspeeday.co.uk" - what a misleading title if you're not going to include ALL international speedway. i'm going to sit in the corner and sulk until its fixed.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) and how dare the site owner decide that a pair is not a team. what an insult to the likes of collins, morton, gundersen, nielsen etc. who won this event. especially when the name of the site is "internationalspeeday.co.uk" - what a misleading title if you're not going to include ALL international speedway. i'm going to sit in the corner and sulk until its fixed.... The owner acknowledges the existence of pairs but does not carry them except in a specialist situation. He explains that non-coverage of pairs is because pairs are not in context with what the site offers in regard to international team matches not because he doesn't like them. This is the explanation by the site owner: "I have excluded pairs events, as i do not consider two riders to be a "team" in the context of this website. The only exceptions to this are (i) the World Team Cup, which was run as a pairs competition between 1994 and 1998, but whose results from that period are included for completeness of the records of that competition, and (ii) the Mitropa Cup, which has been a pairs competition in some years, but is especially interesting as it features some of the smaller central European countries." Edited November 26, 2013 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 26, 2013 Not true actually, they've said on here they wouldn't.. After the way you have treated Frigbo on here - I'm not surprised. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike.Butler 601 Posted November 27, 2013 I note Guest appearances are included. but what about no.8 rides? are they included? please confirm. thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
June01 268 Posted November 27, 2013 Is there anymore more stupid a thing than this so-called 'history' site on proboards completely ignoring the third tier racing record of riders? Why on earth does it do that? Completely nullifies any legitimacy of that site as being a full record of a rider's career. Here's an example: http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/thread/444 Misses out all references to the meetings a double Conference/National League Riders Champ has ridden in the third tier! Don't know if anyone on the BSF also deals with this 'proboards' site but if they do can they possibly explain..?! I do find it ironic that your post slating us has instead promoted us. Thanks. Personally I've found the site useful quite a few times over the years - although it's a shame it isn't database driven and 'fed' by Speedway Updates so as to eradicate the duplicated effort and to drive alternative analysis. You're assuming the results come from speedway updates, but that's not the case (and I'm pretty sure they don't cover the 80s!). As great a resource as it is, there are often mistakes on websites, including the teams' own, and even, would you believe, the Speedway Star and the SCB? I don't use a single source for meeting results - often it's four, five, or even more to ensure they are as accurate as possible. That's why it often takes hours to do a single meeting result. And a question for Frigbo: Is there a way that your databse could be configured so that all the averages for a particular season could be viewed, rather than by individual rider? (e.g. display 1982, and it ould show all averages for all riders for that season). Yes. I was going to work on indexing riders year by year, and team by team eventually. Unfortunately I am only one person and I do have a life outside of this! Like Frigbo said, it's taken four years to get to this point, but it's a work in progress and I'm still finishing off a few results from this year at the moment. Will get more on there probably after Christmas. As for the point of this website? Let's call it a hobby. Basically, if you don't like it, don't use it! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 27, 2013 The above Post says it all really. Well done to them and YAH BOO SUCKS!! to certain others. :approve: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
June01 268 Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) If someone just wanted to do EL/BL would that be wrong? Why is it not including Sweden and Poland? Erm, it is! For the results side, anyway. And Germany, CZR, Denmark, Russia, Australia... Results index: http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/board/55/results-index Edited November 27, 2013 by June01 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 27, 2013 Is there anymore more stupid a thing than this so-called 'history' site on proboards completely ignoring the third tier racing record of riders? Why on earth does it do that? Completely nullifies any legitimacy of that site as being a full record of a rider's career. Here's an example: http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/thread/444 Misses out all references to the meetings a double Conference/National League Riders Champ has ridden in the third tier! Don't know if anyone on the BSF also deals with this 'proboards' site but if they do can they possibly explain..?! I do find it ironic that your post slating us has instead promoted us. Thanks. I don't see how P1928's original post has achieved what you claim. Can you explain in what way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
June01 268 Posted November 27, 2013 I don't see how P1928's original post has achieved what you claim. Can you explain in what way? Why am I not surprised? Promotion by exposure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 27, 2013 I don't see how P1928's original post has achieved what you claim. Can you explain in what way? No such thing as BAD publicity gustix my friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 27, 2013 I don't see how P1928's original post has achieved what you claim. Can you explain in what way? Why am I not surprised? Promotion by exposure. No such thing as BAD publicity gustix my friend. Not from my professional experience of these matters. Just what does "promotion by exposure' mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
