Swedish Gp Malilla Saturday June 14th

[BWitcher 12,453]

If its not live why bother !

 

It's not that difficult to avoid the result and watch it on Sunday morning if necessary.

[Mark 1,497]

CURRENTLY enjoying Florida sunshine before heading back to the UK and Malilla ... will try and get an answer from BSI asap...

 

Could they change the streaming regulations on the SGP website to allow live pictures ?

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

HAVE been given an update by BSI but must wait until Monday until everything is sorted. Seems as though UK Eurosport's masters in France have insisted they carry equestrian and Le Mans events but alternative arrangements being made. Will post here as soon as given the green light...

[racers and royals 8,712]

HAVE been given an update by BSI but must wait until Monday until everything is sorted. Seems as though UK Eurosport's masters in France have insisted they carry equestrian and Le Mans events but alternative arrangements being made. Will post here as soon as given the green light...

Eurosport player no doubt.

edit it`s not Equestrian but Tennis which is on with Le Mans

Edited June 9, 2014 by racers and royals

[arthur cross 492]

Eurosport player no doubt.

edit it`s not Equestrian but Tennis which is on with Le Mans

It is the show jumping that's the problem rather than the tennis.

 

The tennis from 6.00-to-8.15 is a recording for Europe-wide viewing of that afternoon's semi-finals of Germany's biggest grass-court tournament in the run-up to Wimbledon.

 

But the show jumping preview show from 8.15 and live coverage from the French resort of Cannes from 8.30 clashes with the SGP's schedule for heats 17-to-20, the semis and the final, never mind any catching-up of heats 13-to-16 if there have been earlier crashes or rain delays ... the live show jumping runs until 10.00 so it's the first-third of that coverage that would be overlapping the scheduled last half-hour of speedway.

 

While show jumping doesn't have a large audience numerically, the wealthy background of so many of its participants and spectators means it does attract several really lucrative sponsorship and advertising deals that Eurosport won't want to offend.

Edited June 9, 2014 by arthur cross

[racers and royals 8,712]

It is the show jumping that's the problem rather than the tennis.

 

The tennis from 6.00-to-8.15 is a recording for Europe-wide viewing of that afternoon's semi-finals of Germany's biggest grass-court tournament in the run-up to Wimbledon.

 

But the show jumping preview show from 8.15 and live coverage from the French resort of Cannes from 8.30 clashes with the SGP's schedule for heats 17-to-20, the semis and the final, never mind any catching-up of heats 13-to-16 if there have been earlier crashes or rain delays ... the live show jumping runs until 10.00 so it's the first-third of that coverage that would be overlapping the scheduled last half-hour of speedway.

 

While show jumping doesn't have a large audience numerically, the wealthy background of so many of its participants and spectators means it does attract several really lucrative sponsorship and advertising deals that Eurosport won't want to offend.

Yes but we are talking BRITISH EUROSPORT here-Eurosport Europe have not got the contract to show the GP`S. So Tennis and showjumping from abroad should not be a priority over showing the GP in Great Britain.

[arthur cross 492]

Yes but we are talking BRITISH EUROSPORT here-Eurosport Europe have not got the contract to show the GP`S. So Tennis and showjumping from abroad should not be a priority over showing the GP in Great Britain.

With Great Britain being one of the world's leading equestrian nations, those relatively lucrative sponsorship and advertising deals I've already mentioned linked-up to the live coverage from Cannes will have been struck with the expectation of live coverage on Briitsh Eurosport as well as the Europe-wide version.

 

Between 8.15 and 9.00 this Saturday night, British Eurosport are stuck with only 2 channels on which to show 3 different types of live sports deals, namely the "once-a-year, world sporting heritage" action from Le Mans, the "niche but commercially lucrative" show jumping from Cannes and the latest "popular but still only midway through a long season" speedway Grand Prix meeting.

 

The German tennis's part in this is relatively incidental as it's simply been chosen as the best already-recorded option to fill the 6.00-to-8.15 gap between the end of the live afternoon superbikes and the live evening programming leading into the show jumping once it was decided to show the whole of both those live events rather than shoe-horn the speedway into a set of 3 live events, none of which would then be guaranteed their whole coverage.

 

By the way, just like the "tennis and showjumping from abroad" you mentioned, the speedway's "from abroad" as well so good luck justifying round a Eurosport executive table why speedway from Sweden should automatically have priority on British Eurosport over show jumping from France !!

[racers and royals 8,712]

With Great Britain being one of the world's leading equestrian nations, those relatively lucrative sponsorship and advertising deals I've already mentioned linked-up to the live coverage from Cannes will have been struck with the expectation of live coverage on Briitsh Eurosport as well as the Europe-wide version.

 

Between 8.15 and 9.00 this Saturday night, British Eurosport are stuck with only 2 channels on which to show 3 different types of live sports deals, namely the "once-a-year, world sporting heritage" action from Le Mans, the "niche but commercially lucrative" show jumping from Cannes and the latest "popular but still only midway through a long season" speedway Grand Prix meeting.

 

The German tennis's part in this is relatively incidental as it's simply been chosen as the best already-recorded option to fill the 6.00-to-8.15 gap between the end of the live afternoon superbikes and the live evening programming leading into the show jumping once it was decided to show the whole of both those live events rather than shoe-horn the speedway into a set of 3 live events, none of which would then be guaranteed their whole coverage.

 

By the way, just like the "tennis and showjumping from abroad" you mentioned, the speedway's "from abroad" as well so good luck justifying round a Eurosport executive table why speedway from Sweden should automatically have priority on British Eurosport over show jumping from France !!

How about this then show speedway live at 6pm instead of the tennis,scrub the horse racing show from 8.15 to 8.30. so now you have 2 and a half hours. stay with the speedway until the final is run and then go to "delayed live " show Jumping-i have been to enough GP`S to know that between 8.40 and 8.55pm would be the normal finish time. Edited June 9, 2014 by racers and royals

[oldace 1,678]

How about this then show speedway live at 6pm instead of the tennis,scrub the horse racing show from 8.15 to 8.30. so now you have 2 and a half hours. stay with the speedway until the final is run and then go to "delayed live " show Jumping-i have been to enough GP`S to know that between 8.40 and 8.55pm would be the normal finish time.

 

 

Eurosport (like SKY or ITV) only want content to show between ad breaks, the value of which is determined by various factors. Harsh as it may be ads between a major equestrian event will command more blue chip advertisers and a higher revenue due to the higher percentage of ABC1s watching than ad breaks between speedway. If anything is to be pushed out it will likely not be the equestrian.

[racers and royals 8,712]

Eurosport (like SKY or ITV) only want content to show between ad breaks, the value of which is determined by various factors. Harsh as it may be ads between a major equestrian event will command more blue chip advertisers and a higher revenue due to the higher percentage of ABC1s watching than ad breaks between speedway. If anything is to be pushed out it will likely not be the equestrian.

We now know where Eurosport`s priorities lie(as we have already seen with the Tuesday Swedish coverage.)So lets hope BT sport see the value to getting some speedway contracts-and the viewers subs along with it-the GP`S and Sweden would be a good start with Poland to follow after that. Edited June 9, 2014 by racers and royals

[arthur cross 492]

How about this then show speedway live at 6pm instead of the tennis,scrub the horse racing show from 8.15 to 8.30. so now you have 2 and a half hours. stay with the speedway until the final is run and then go to "delayed live " show Jumping-i have been to enough GP`S to know that between 8.40 and 8.55pm would be the normal finish time.

"Normal finish time" yes, but so far (looking ahead to Saturday) that's not good enough at Eurosport Towers (especially given the speedway's more weather-dependent than either Le Mans or the show jumping) to persuade them to shoe-horn the speedway into the live sequence and open up a reasonable risk of the speedway cutting deeper into the show jumping than would be the "normal finish time".

 

Meanwhile, the "slightly delayed live" option you're suggesting for British Eurosport's coverage of the show jumping is one of the last avenues Eurosport will want to take, especially now we're in an era when so much live sports coverage includes social-media angles (from either the broadcasters themselves or the event organizers) as well as in-play betting.

 

Even as slight a delay as 10-or-20-minutes ruins those aspects, especially if the commentators or pundits slag off a tweet from a delayed-viewer whose comment was extremely accurate for the stage that viewer's reached in the coverage but looks stupid the moment it's sent because the presenters receiving it know the much-different up-to-date situation !!

 

Hence, in this upcoming situation on Saturday, tv-channel schedulers are now always more likely to prefer doing full justice to 2 live events and deal with just one load of frustrated viewers instead of fudging round trying show all 3 live events with the risk of flak flying at various stages from all their viewers.

 

And it always greatly amuses those schedulers that just about every sport has its fair share of ardent fans/sponsors who are hopeless at coming to terms with the existence of equally ardent fans/sponsors in other sports when awkward clashes crop up.

Edited June 9, 2014 by arthur cross

[mike1944 151]

I would not mind delayed coverage if they showed ALL of the races and not miss out a few races so they could show the gardening and messing about at the starting gate or shots of the crowd with somebody eating a burger or waving a flag between the races.

[racers and royals 8,712]

I am 100% certain that British Eurosport would get more viewers watching Speedway than show jumping

[Haza 1,765]

If it ain't on British Eurosprt watch via the Internet on a Polish website hook the lap top up to the TV that's the way we shall watch if British Eurosport doesn't show it live but my guess they will show it live .

[racers and royals 8,712]

If it ain't on British Eurosprt watch via the Internet on a Polish website hook the lap top up to the TV that's the way we shall watch if British Eurosport doesn't show it live but my guess they will show it live .

Pretty sure they won`t show it live-maybe on the Eurosport player might be one option-or if not BSI could make the official website stream available in the uk this once.