clambo71 136 Posted July 18, 2014 Will Tai's view about racing on one night in the UK have any promoters taking any notice. He says in the SS that he is not the only top rider currently riding here who is thinking about giving us a miss in 2015. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon Hammer 576 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Hardly surprising really. PUK had a rest from the Euro Pairs earlier, because of a heavy workload. Think most supporters are in agreement riding one night a week for EL Edited July 18, 2014 by Falcon Hammer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,425 Posted July 18, 2014 supporters can all be in agreement, but if a club doesn't own the stadium it's not up to them is it 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frigbo 518 Posted July 18, 2014 Typically selfish rider's point of view. Most clubs in the UK don't own their stadia and therefore are limited to when they can operate. If you're tired, don't cream off the dollar in both Poland and Sweden and have a kip on Sunday or Tuesday. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheReturn 1,724 Posted July 18, 2014 supporters can all be in agreement, but if a club doesn't own the stadium it's not up to them is it Perhaps those clubs may have to go Premier League then? Something needs to happen if we want the best riders riding in the UK, to call the existing Elite League 'elite' is frankly a joke. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,780 Posted July 18, 2014 Perhaps those clubs may have to go Premier League then? Something needs to happen if we want the best riders riding in the UK, to call the existing Elite League 'elite' is frankly a joke. How many would that leave in the EL? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pvm 113 Posted July 18, 2014 So, What night would it be? and How many teams can race on that night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R87 476 Posted July 18, 2014 Much as I would be in favour of 1 night a week speedway, I just don't think its feasible. Possibly they could look at limiting clubs to 1 home match and 1 away each week, but thats probably the best they can do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted July 18, 2014 WHATEVER we finish up with in 2015 fans need to know with certainty when their track will be staging meetings and when they will not. It's pointless people like frigbo having a crack at riders like Tai. Quite naturally they will want to earn as much from a limited career, which could end tomorrow, as they can and right now that means racing in Poland and Sweden ahead of the UK. One race night has been a thorny chestnut for British tracks for a long, long time and it remains tough to seen how that hurdle can be overcome. But if British fans are to get the chance to see more rather than less of the top riders racing here then some solution will have to be found. It is not just the money but the inconvenience of commuting in and out of England on a regular basis that is taking its toil. Some sort of super league, with limited fixtures and tailored for Sky, could be the answer with those teams perhaps also competing in a secondary competition, possibly the Premier League which might be split geographically. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Brown 542 Posted July 18, 2014 WHATEVER we finish up with in 2015 fans need to know with certainty when their track will be staging meetings and when they will not. It's pointless people like frigbo having a crack at riders like Tai. Quite naturally they will want to earn as much from a limited career, which could end tomorrow, as they can and right now that means racing in Poland and Sweden ahead of the UK. One race night has been a thorny chestnut for British tracks for a long, long time and it remains tough to seen how that hurdle can be overcome. But if British fans are to get the chance to see more rather than less of the top riders racing here then some solution will have to be found. It is not just the money but the inconvenience of commuting in and out of England on a regular basis that is taking its toil. Some sort of super league, with limited fixtures and tailored for Sky, could be the answer with those teams perhaps also competing in a secondary competition, possibly the Premier League which might be split geographically. On one hand Philip I hear what you are saying and I am not having a go at Tai personally here but while he was an up and coming rider he was very happy with the set up in the UK which allowed him to ride in more than one league and develop his talent in a way that maybe 10 years ago he would not have been able to do. None of these other countries offer and British or Aussie rider the ability to ride the sheer amount of speedway that Britain does, which is why there are so many riders riding here from countries other than Britain Its just fascinating that now he is at the top of his game he feels that if he is to continue to ride here then British Speedway needs to dance to his tune and change. I suspect we would all agree that British Speedway is sadly dying on its feet, lets be honest it has been for years but this is not the reason he wants to change everything, he wants change because it suits him. No criticism for asking but why didn't he think this a few years ago when he was benefiting from the system. Lets be honest its the British league system (however screwed up it might be) that has allowed Tai to develop to the point that he was able to become a worthy World Champion, the leagues that he now seems to prioritise done pretty much nothing to aid his development in his early career For me it would be shocking for a British World Champion who has IMO benefited from the platform British speedway has given him to make him what he is to turn his back on it because it won't dance to his tune Having said that he must make a choice and its up to him, all I ask is that British Speedway does the right thing for British Speedway rather than the right thing for riders who just want everything to change to fit their own personal agenda As ever, just my opinion which I am sure people will disagree with but British Speedway will hopefully be around a lot longer than the riders who want everything changed to suit them. I suspect Tai should be credited in some way for being the one to at least say what he thinks but I just do noit share his view 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted July 18, 2014 Well one awkward team have gone in Eastbourne! I guess the less teams there are in our EL the better for the top men. Do we know how many of them want to race here with only one day a week race night? I guess it's down to the promoters to find out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Brown 542 Posted July 18, 2014 Perhaps those clubs may have to go Premier League then? Something needs to happen if we want the best riders riding in the UK, to call the existing Elite League 'elite' is frankly a joke. But can we afford the 'best' riders ? Do the 'best' riders provide the best racing and entertainment. Not sure they always do to be honest 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soupdragon 0 Posted July 18, 2014 I think it would have to be 2 nights consecutively as I don't think clubs and probably a majority of fans wouldn't be happy with only 1 meeting a fortnight providing no rain-offs. It would also possibly mean the introduction of some sort of squad system as guests would be out of the question, also D/U and FTD riders would be in doubt if everybody is riding the same night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,934 Posted July 18, 2014 He says in the SS that he is not the only top rider currently riding here who is thinking about giving us a miss in 2015. Well cheerio then. British speedway has to be run in a way that's best for British speedway rather than the top riders. 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted July 18, 2014 WHATEVER we finish up with in 2015 fans need to know with certainty when their track will be staging meetings and when they will not. It's pointless people like frigbo having a crack at riders like Tai. Quite naturally they will want to earn as much from a limited career, which could end tomorrow, as they can and right now that means racing in Poland and Sweden ahead of the UK. One race night has been a thorny chestnut for British tracks for a long, long time and it remains tough to seen how that hurdle can be overcome. But if British fans are to get the chance to see more rather than less of the top riders racing here then some solution will have to be found. It is not just the money but the inconvenience of commuting in and out of England on a regular basis that is taking its toil. Some sort of super league, with limited fixtures and tailored for Sky, could be the answer with those teams perhaps also competing in a secondary competition, possibly the Premier League which might be split geographically. I would very much object to that Philip. The Premier League is making it's own way very nicely thank you. Of course, in this economic climate of austerity some Premier League Teams are feeling the pinch - but crucially they are managing. If they can survive the Recession I honestly feel that brighter days will be ahead for the Premier League. The Elite League, however, is in a mess. Birmingham - Closed, Eastbourne - could (hopefully not) be about to go the same way. Other Clubs are not doing very well - the Product has become that watered down with Premier League and National League Riders that the League itself is just a pale shadow of what it used to be, hardly 'Elite'. I think the only way forward for the Elite League is a single night per week of Racing - One Home Meeting a fortnight and One Away Meeting per fortnight. THAT is the only way the League will survive and flourish. THAT way the World's leading Riders could return. I would much prefer that the Elite League Group stayed away from the Premier League - they would only ruin what is a very good, entertaining and competitive League. They certainly have a history of ruining things in their own League. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
