An Alternate Gp Format?

[BWitcher 12,453]

What I am trying to show is the magnitude of presentation and the venues used for the two USA midget car racing classics but the obvious high standard of the venues where they take place. Like it or lump it - some of the places where speedway GPs are no where in the same class. And, no matter how one may try to defend Cardiff as the indoor Mecca, does it in any way compare to either the Chili Bowl or Knoxville?

If a speedway GP ever goes to the USA - and that would be wonderful - these are the sort of venues where a discerning American public would expect to see it taking place.

 

What on earth are you talking about?

 

That venue for the 'Chilli Bowl' is the Tulsa Expo Center. It's not even a stadium, but an exhibition hall in which they put up some temporary stands. Will hold less than 10,000. Yet you are seriously suggesting it is a better venue than Cardiff???

 

It would be like us staging the British GP at the NEC... not the arena at the NEC, but one of the exhibition halls.

[lucifer sam 3,953]

Every race matters in the current format, if you go back to the old format it will be far to tactical riders not going for the win but instead racing for the position that will suit them further into the meeting.

 

If a rider wins their first three races and has 9 points, if they then run a third, they might be not too unhappy to sit in that postion.

 

Where under the KO format, if you did that, you were straight into an eliminator, even if you'd been previosly unbeaten. You couldn't affort a duff ride in the KO format, you can under the current format. It favours the top riders too much now, whereas under the KO format anybody could get into the mix.

 

There was cut-throat racing throughout the KO format, you only tend to get that from Heat 17 onwards under the current format. It's too safe for a high-octane motorsport. Make it dramatic.

 

All the best

Rob

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This is probably a first helpful post I have made to you-if you use edit and then full editor you can change the thread title

I'll give that a try. I am always ready to learn. Thank you.

[Trees 2,814]

i would forget about practice...previous day takes riders away from a UK meet they could otherwise do whilst on the day hinders good track prep

And gives every rider more of an equal chance of success.

[BWitcher 12,453]

And gives every rider more of an equal chance of success.

 

Why?

[Fromafar 10,318]

I think it would be good to award a bonus point for every heat winner,but not added into to score until after the meeting has finished not to interfere with qualifying points on the night.eg Woffy scores 13 points on the night but had won 3 heats so he gets an extra 3 points on his total after the meeting has finished =16ptsMight make them fight for the heat win instead of settling for 2nd in some instances.Only a suggestion.

[Mark 1,497]

I'd cancel practise. Waste of time and expensive. Temporary tracks would benefit.

[BWitcher 12,453]

I'd cancel practise. Waste of time and expensive. Temporary tracks would benefit.

If it's such a waste of time, why do the riders do it?

 

Perhaps you should give them your pearls of wisdom?

 

I've no idea why some people think canceling practice will somehow improve the gps.

Edited August 10, 2014 by BWitcher

[Bavarian 765]

Keep it simple. No extra points/ bonus points etc, please. It is near perfect like is is now. We never had a better system for the SGP. No changes needed. It would only be changes for the worse.

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

THE downside of practice is the wear and tear on tracks, especially temporary ones. Have those GPs that have gone ahead without practice suffered? Probably not.

 

But practice isn't simply for the riders. It is also useful for those working on the track and at the stadium.

 

Very few riders skip practice altogether so that must tell us something. The hard task, and one still not fulfilled, is trying to get something meaningful out of practice for the media. It's not like F1 of course where practice determines pole position, etc., and even the draw is off very limited use to the written media in particlular.

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Keep it simple. No extra points/ bonus points etc, please. It is near perfect like is is now. We never had a better system for the SGP. No changes needed. It would only be changes for the worse.

History shows that over the years this is what speedway specialises in!!

[Tim Templeton 43]

I think the current set up is pretty much spot on. The one gripe I do have, is that we are told that there can be no dead heats, even if there is one. Try giving a logical argument to that.

[lucifer sam 3,953]

 

Very few riders skip practice altogether so that must tell us something. The hard task, and one still not fulfilled, is trying to get something meaningful out of practice for the media. It's not like F1 of course where practice determines pole position, etc., and even the draw is off very limited use to the written media in particlular.

 

Then follow in F1's example.

 

Riders have a flying lap; order determined by drawing lots.

 

Rider with the fastest time has first choice of draw number (most likely to go for 1, 5 or 13). Second fastest rider has second pick. Down to 16th rider having whatever is left (no 3 is a bum draw, good chance this could be left).

 

Media then not only has a draw to publish, but also qualifying times. Could create a story, e.g. if there's a surprise top qualifier, how the championship contenders fare against each other, etc.

 

If practice is cancelled, then riders pick in championship order.

 

All the best

Rob

Edited August 10, 2014 by lucifer sam

[Trees 2,814]

The trouble with speedway is that the track is better at the start so anyone doing an early lap should be quicker.

[longlivefrankie 458]

Yes then you have to break up the qualifying sessions as they do in most motor sports, I don't think that issue is any different to weather affected f1 or motogp practice/qualifying