SCB 0 Posted February 20, 2015 can still have RR though?? If so its the fans that suffer again. No. No facility. It's a clubs responsibility to make sure they sign rider who are available! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted February 20, 2015 No. No facility. It's a clubs responsibility to make sure they sign rider who are available!whats the facility that Trigger says he intends to use then, until may possibly?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 20, 2015 whats the facility that Trigger says he intends to use then, until may possibly?? There isn't one. He's making it up. Just like they have a number 7 who cannot ride PL and NL. And I've yet to read/hear how Holder can get a work permit/visa too. I'd take most of what he says and ignore it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted February 20, 2015 There isn't one. He's making it up. Just like they have a number 7 who cannot ride PL and NL. And I've yet to read/hear how Holder can get a work permit/visa too. I'd take most of what he says and ignore it.thats me told then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 20, 2015 thats me told then I just think down at Plymouth they're winging it. They don't seem to know what they're doing which just confuses people! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) The riders ARE available - just not got visas through yet - so what's wrong with announcing them in the 1-7? Every club has a deadline to announce their teams before the BSPA officially 'declare' them (or not?). If its just a time issue, I'm sure the BSPA will be very supportive of any/all teams in any league affected by the visa issues!! After all nobody yet knows what new criteria might have been agreed with the UKVI re 'migrant riders'? Edited February 20, 2015 by Skidder1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,322 Posted February 20, 2015 The riders ARE available - just not got visas through yet - so what's wrong with announcing them in the 1-7? Every club has a deadline to announce their teams before the BSPA officially 'declare' them (or not?). If its just a time issue, I'm sure the BSPA will be very supportive of any/all teams in any league affected by the visa issues!! After all nobody yet knows what new criteria might have been agreed with the UKVI re 'migrant riders'? At last a sensible post regarding the present situation british speedway is in:-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger MARTIN 128 Posted February 20, 2015 I just think down at Plymouth they're winging it. They don't seem to know what they're doing which just confuses people! Don't take much to confuse you to be fair, i'm sure there not happy your confused. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robinh88 571 Posted February 20, 2015 scb is is usually pretty spot on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger MARTIN 128 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) scb is is usually pretty spot on Did I say he wasn't, i'm just sorry he's confused, can't be happy not knowing what everyone is doing. Edited February 20, 2015 by Devildodger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Don't take much to confuse you to be fair, i'm sure there not happy your confused. I'm not the one who is confused. I grasp the concept of a 25 year old NOT being under 25. I grasp that not having a visa to work in this country doesn't constitute any of the following reasons thus doesn't allow a facility for said rider... 16.5.1 A Team may utilise a "Facility" to cover the absence of a Rider(s) who:A is on FIM World Speedway Championship duty. B is engaged elsewhere at a BSPA shared or fee Meeting. C is recalled by his own FMN in accordance with the FIM ISLB Regulations. D has been injured whilst speedway racing, Within 48 hours of the injury occurring, if no evidence is available, a Medical Certificate must be sent to the SCB; failure to do so will result in the mandatory suspension of the Rider’s SCB Registration for the next home fixture. NB. The BSPA MC cannot overrule the suspension. E is sick or carrying a non-speedway injury for which a Medical Certificate must be supplied to the SCB within 48 hours of the sickness / injury occurring in which case the Rider may only return within 7 days (including his Team’s next home Meeting) with the express permission of the MC. However failure to provide a Certificate will nevertheless result in the mandatory suspension of the Rider’s SCB Registration for the next home fixture. NB. The BSPA MC cannot overrule the suspension. F has been suspended by the FIM, ACU, SCB or Rider’s FMN. G is in dispute with his Club, provided that the circumstances have been accepted by the MC, who will determine the Facility and period of the Rider’s inactivity. H is on FIM Longtrack Championship duty (for the day of the Meeting only; no facility is permitted for practice day). I being a PL Rider whose own FMN does not have a current Agreement with the BSPA and is competing in another National League or Open Meeting. This will result in the Rider’s SCB Registration being suspended for 1 (one) season and the Team will be automatically granted a facility for a maximum period of 28 days, after which they must re-declare. J is awaiting medical clearance from the Riders FMN. K is absent for any other reason (applicable to the NL only) Maybe the Plymouth promotions has the follow line scrawled on there in red wax crayon, "L when work visas have been screwed up" Edited February 20, 2015 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,119 Posted February 20, 2015 Sorry to ask (and hijack) this, on a PL thread, but does F) mean that Poole can have a facility for Darcy then? :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,322 Posted February 20, 2015 I'm not the one who is confused. I grasp the concept of a 25 year old NOT being under 25. I grasp that not having a visa to work in this country doesn't constitute any of the following reasons thus doesn't allow a facility for said rider... Maybe the Plymouth promotions has the follow line scrawled on there in red wax crayon, "L when work visas have been screwed up" this wealth of knowledge from the person who said rusty harrison wouldn't be eligible to ride this season! You don't know s**t. You don't know the criteria for visas unless you work for the ukvi which you obviously don't because jack holder does meet the criteria required what that is I dont know but I don't pretend to! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,883 Posted February 20, 2015 this wealth of knowledge from the person who said rusty harrison wouldn't be eligible to ride this season! You don't know s**t. You don't know the criteria for visas unless you work for the ukvi which you obviously don't because jack holder does meet the criteria required what that is I dont know but I don't pretend to!So what you're saying is "he meets the criteria because they say he does" with no actual reason... Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the same thing they've been making a mess of for the past God knows how many seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 20, 2015 this wealth of knowledge from the person who said rusty harrison wouldn't be eligible to ride this season! You don't know s**t. You don't know the criteria for visas unless you work for the ukvi which you obviously don't because jack holder does meet the criteria required what that is I dont know but I don't pretend to! Rusty Harrison doesn't have a visa. So I was right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
