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Always amazes me that Kings Lynn are so pro the draft which is fair enough but would they be able to do as much if they didn't loan heat leaders season after season.

 

A bit like loaning heat leaders benefits Kings Lynn as they never purchase any top riders so can't have it both ways.

 

We had Mads on loan from Swindon as they didn't want him/didn't have room for him.

 

You should be grateful, and use such loan fees to maybe set up some kind of young rider development scheme.

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Always amazes me that Kings Lynn are so pro the draft which is fair enough but would they be able to do as much if they didn't loan heat leaders season after season.

 

A bit like loaning heat leaders benefits Kings Lynn as they never purchase any top riders so can't have it both ways.

 

What wonderful responses!!!!!, First of all these are my opinions and are in no representative of Kings Lynn speedway club.

 

Heat leaders! where do they come into the argument about FTR's and Draft scheme. The asset system in this country is dated and unworkable. The riders are not the property of , merely the clubs that they have to answer to. If an asset doesn't want to ride for his parent club then he'll look else where. The fact that many of the top riders wanting to race for the Stars says many things. and by continuously using other teams asset riders, then at least they are benefitting from the loan fee.

 

It doesn't matter who think they own NKI, he will only ride where HE wants too. What a waste of money it would be to buy a rider who doesn't want to ride for you....

 

 

Wrong on all points ...the draft system in the main is to save money nearly everyone knows that . The only thing you ever care about is what suits your own side .

 

It's a massive advantage to have you own assets as KL and Poole showed last year as you get first picks and that's why they came first and second in the table . Not sure what advantage teams with no with no ftr get over the others who have .

 

.The Draft system doesn't save any money. The draft is purely a selection process of the FTR;s It is the introduction of the FTR, that is suppose to save the money . Clubs could sit round the table and sort this out and still save the same about....... At least that way all the riders who ride where they wanted too......

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What wonderful responses!!!!!, First of all these are my opinions and are in no representative of Kings Lynn speedway club.

 

Heat leaders! where do they come into the argument about FTR's and Draft scheme. The asset system in this country is dated and unworkable. The riders are not the property of , merely the clubs that they have to answer to. If an asset doesn't want to ride for his parent club then he'll look else where. The fact that many of the top riders wanting to race for the Stars says many things. and by continuously using other teams asset riders, then at least they are benefitting from the loan fee.

 

It doesn't matter who think they own NKI, he will only ride where HE wants too. What a waste of money it would be to buy a rider who doesn't want to ride for you....

 

 

 

.The Draft system doesn't save any money. The draft is purely a selection process of the FTR;s It is the introduction of the FTR, that is suppose to save the money . Clubs could sit round the table and sort this out and still save the same about....... At least that way all the riders who ride where they wanted too......

How does the draft not save money ? before we had riders on 4 and 5 cma's from Poland and Sweden etc being paid large sums to ride at reserve now we have brits on low points money ..it's not hard to work out .how do you work out it's not saving money do explain ?

 

Your top bit is full of double standards as well . Your happy to loan other teams assets but are up in arms if someone get's the chance to loan yours ...

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How does the draft not save money ? before we had riders on 4 and 5 cma's from Poland and Sweden etc being paid large sums to ride at reserve now we have brits on low points money ..it's not hard to work out .how do you work out it's not saving money do explain ?

 

Your top bit is full of double standards as well . Your happy to loan other teams assets but are up in arms if someone get's the chance to loan yours ...

 

A) Call it what you will, but it's the introduction of young FTR that is saving the monies, calling it a draft merely complicates the selection process.

 

B) Not double standards at all. In the heat leader situation, a club and a rider agree a contract. The rider is agreeing with where he works and what he'd paid. I the FTR situation, is totally different . All riders receive a said amount, regardless of where he's going to ride. and has not choice of who he rides for. In this day and age, we want to encourage all young brits, and help them in every way, not dictate to them just where and what they do just to save some promoters a bit of dosh....

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The Draft system doesn't save any money.

 

 

 

A) Call it what you will, but it's the introduction of young FTR that is saving the monies

 

That was a quick change of mind!

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That was a quick change of mind!

 

Not a change of mind. at all.

 

 

 

 

.The Draft system doesn't save any money. The draft is purely a selection process of the FTR;s It is the introduction of the FTR, that is suppose to save the money . Clubs could sit round the table and sort this out and still save the same about....... At least that way all the riders who ride where they wanted too......

 

Had you read the WHOLE posting, instead of picking out bits to create an argument, you will see what the explanation of the wording meant.

 

So no there was no change of mind.

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Had you read the WHOLE posting, instead of picking out bits to create an argument, you will see what the explanation of the wording meant.

 

So no there was no change of mind.

 

 

You are quoting yourself!

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Not a change of mind. at all.

Oh, so the Fast Track Draft System doesn't save money, and the Fast Track Draft System does save money.

 

Yep, that makes sense.... :drink: :drink: :drink:

 

 

 

p.s. Just out of interest, does the Fast Track Draft System save money?

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I understand what GRW is getting at, and he quoted himself to show the whole point that he was making.

 

As usual this thread has gone very off topic but what he's trying to say is the fast track reserve riders themselves (Newman instead of Andersson, Kerr instead of Lebedevs and Worrall instead of Pavlic) are saving money because they are cheaper! However 'forcing' teams to pick riders in a draft as opposed to negotiating a contract like you do with the top 5 and how you used to for a reserve, isn't lowering the cost, it is merely the way of distributing the riders. Though, what I think GRW hasn't realised if he's only partly correct as a draft system lowers the cost even further as, for example, instead of Andersson coming on a 4.00 and £100 a point plus air fares etc, they now sign Newman on £40 a point with less expenses and are forced to only pay him £40 a point. However if there wasn't a draft Leicester could want to improve their pool A rider from last year and so offer Newman £50 a point, Poole respond by paying him £60 a point etc etc

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