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As you did.(unfortunately!) :sad: All the best. Alan.

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Just a thought on the length of time to lay a temporary track - if more time is required it means hiring the venue for more days!! They don't give the venue free!! So any extra hire cost will be passed onto the fans in even more expensive ticket prices!

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Just a thought on the length of time to lay a temporary track - if more time is required it means hiring the venue for more days!! They don't give the venue free!! So any extra hire cost will be passed onto the fans in even more expensive ticket prices!

If thats the case then so beit. You cannot lay a temparary track in 3 days and expect it not to cut up badly. You have the choice, either you have more time for the track curators to lay a track at the venue, giving the track more time to bed in, or its a rush job profit before speedway and you end up with what you had last Saturday. I think i know what the fans and riders would prefere..

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I thought the green light starts were better than tapes. It eliminated almost any possibility of anticipating the start and getting a flyer, and makes any jumped start very obvious. F1, MotoGP, WSB and BSB seem to manage it.

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Although it is the tapes issue that really precipitated the rider revolt on Saturday.

There is no doubt that the inconsistency of track preparation is an issue that will matter for all future indoor GPs
And one that was made full use of to get the postponement activated by the dim-witted Jury.

 

As regards the time taken to prepare the track.

I presume this is the reason why the PZM statement on Sunday made it plain that SpeedSport had access to the Stadium on April 12 to begin track building.

But that they did not commence doing so until April 14.

 

No doubt one of the little entrails that the lawyers will chew over.

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"Heat 1: Iversen, Harris, Lambert, Howarth 4-2 59.96 Niels gates and is gone. Lambert from 4th to 2nd but lifts to allow Harris through"

 

Above is a Tweet from Kings Lynn.

 

Afraid it looks like the meeting is danger as Lambert has lifted and its only Heat 1..

 

Edited to add:

 

"Heat 4 stopped as Zengota lifts coming off the second bend and crashes. He's excluded from the re-run"

 

This can't continue!!

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Although it is the tapes issue that really precipitated the rider revolt on Saturday.

There is no doubt that the inconsistency of track preparation is an issue that will matter for all future indoor GPs

And one that was made full use of to get the postponement activated by the dim-witted Jury.

 

As regards the time taken to prepare the track.

I presume this is the reason why the PZM statement on Sunday made it plain that SpeedSport had access to the Stadium on April 12 to begin track building.

But that they did not commence doing so until April 14.

 

No doubt one of the little entrails that the lawyers will chew over.

the riders were definitely revolting

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Good comment in this weeks MCN http://t.co/GdhwoItX4C

 

Telling it how it was..........

The 18 SGP riders should be ashamed of themselves ! had better opinions of some of them than they have reacted (or rather not reacted !).

Treating the people (us fans) with contempt !

Time for the SEC to bring on a championship of integrity and honest riders for the fans to appreciate.

(Only hope for a packed new Belle Vue in 2016 to rival Cardiff and their inferior championship)

 

plus hopefully Lawrence, Steele have picked up their last pay cheques from their involvement in Speedway - well, at least being associated as being English

 

bring on my suspension from speedway-forum for having a go at the "establishment "

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The 18 SGP riders should be ashamed of themselves ! had better opinions of some of them than they have reacted (or rather not reacted !).

Treating the people (us fans) with contempt !

Time for the SEC to bring on a championship of integrity and honest riders for the fans to appreciate.

(Only hope for a packed new Belle Vue in 2016 to rival Cardiff and their inferior championship)

 

plus hopefully Lawrence, Steele have picked up their last pay cheques from their involvement in Speedway - well, at least being associated as being English

 

bring on my suspension from speedway-forum for having a go at the "establishment "

Not sure one sport run a championship of integrity but the rest is about right Edited by Oldace
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Just taking a different tack for a moment.

 

It took THIRTY FOUR years for Speedway to get a crowd in excess of 50,000.

The last one being at Wembley in 1981.

 

And yet on Saturday night the riders have effectively ensured that no other crowd of that size may ever attend a Speedway meeting again.

Ever.

 

Quite amazing to think of that, isn't it?

And hardly surprising that they have taken a vow of silence on the matter, either.

Just taking a different tack for a moment.

 

It took THIRTY FOUR years for Speedway to get a crowd in excess of 50,000.

The last one being at Wembley in 1981.

 

And yet on Saturday night the riders have effectively ensured that no other crowd of that size may ever attend a Speedway meeting again.

Ever.

 

Quite amazing to think of that, isn't it?

And hardly surprising that they have taken a vow of silence on the matter, either.

 

Stark, stunning and accurate observational post.

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The 18 SGP riders should be ashamed of themselves ! had better opinions of some of them than they have reacted (or rather not reacted !).

Treating the people (us fans) with contempt !

Time for the SEC to bring on a championship of integrity and honest riders for the fans to appreciate.

(Only hope for a packed new Belle Vue in 2016 to rival Cardiff and their inferior championship)

 

plus hopefully Lawrence, Steele have picked up their last pay cheques from their involvement in Speedway - well, at least being associated as being English

 

bring on my suspension from speedway-forum for having a go at the "establishment "

 

You do know who backs OneSport don't you?

 

And their recent actions in the sport??

 

Let's just say, the fans in Warsaw got to see 12 heats of speedway... another sold out crowd saw none because of dummy spitting.

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Just a thought on the length of time to lay a temporary track - if more time is required it means hiring the venue for more days!! They don't give the venue free!! So any extra hire cost will be passed onto the fans in even more expensive ticket prices!

It depends on how you view it........... if the owners are interested in speedway holding events in their stadium then it is in their interest to open the doors as early as they can ................. and it's up to the promoters to get that across to them

 

and if it isnt possible? then either Speedway needs to scientifically learn new ways or the promoters move on until they find a stadium where they can have a week before

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It depends on how you view it........... if the owners are interested in speedway holding events in their stadium then it is in their interest to open the doors as early as they can ................. and it's up to the promoters to get that across to them

Stadium owners just want to fill their stadia with events - they generally couldn't care less with what. They rent out the stadium to third party promoters, whether that's speedway or a rock concert, and it's up to those promoters to organise the events, sell the tickets and take the financial risk. It's largely irrelevant to the stadium how the event is run, whether it's cancelled, or whatever... provided the stadium is not damaged and returned in the same condition it was hired in (although the stadium probably takes responsibility for post event cleaning).

 

They'll no doubt also charge for every day the stadium is rented to a third party, even if the stadium is otherwise not required, because the renters will still be using electricity and other facilities. For big events you might get a certain lead-in time for preparation as part of the hire cost, but I'd be surprised if it's more than a couple of days for no extra charge.

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