daveallan81 330 Posted March 10, 2015 Thank you both. I can't find any reference to the mystery Wiltshire, he certainly didn't appear in the BJL that season. Anyone recall this junior riders' name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,605 Posted March 10, 2015 Thank you both. I can't find any reference to the mystery Wiltshire, he certainly didn't appear in the BJL that season. Anyone recall this junior riders' name? He was a late change written into the programme, so maybe it is a similar name ( e.g. Wilshire) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,853 Posted March 10, 2015 Dons v Exeter 19.07.1984 Wimbledon 36 -Exeter 40 Wimbledon Jay Pleece 3,1,F,Ex Carl Chalcraft F.x,F, Phil Vance 2,3,2,2,2,3 Paul Hilton 0,1,3,3,3,3 Mike Fitzpatrick F,F.x,Ex Shawn Whiting 2,2,F.x,0,1,0 Exeter Mike Colls dnr Steve Brannan 1,1,2,0,1 Mike Simmonds 3,2,3,3,2 Brian Hussey 1,F.x,1,2,2 Steve Goodwin 2,0,0,1,F.x Gary Chessel 3,3,3,1,1,2 Ht1 Pleece,Goodwin,Hussey,Hilton 63.3 Ht2 Simmonds,Vance,Brennan,Chalcraft F.x 62.6 Ht3 Chessel,Whiting,Pleece,Goodwin (Fitzpatrick (fell) replaced by Whiting) 63.8 Ht4 Chessel,Whiting,Brennan,Chalcraft (fell) 64.1 Ht5 Vance,Simmonds Hilton,Hussey F.x 62.5 Ht6 Chessel,Brennan, Fitzpatrick F.x,Whiting F.x,Pleece (fell + replaced by Whiting) 64.3 Ht7 Simmonds,Vance,Hussey,Whiting 63.0 Ht8 Hilton,Vance,Chessel,Goodwin 61.9 Ht9 Simmonds,Hussey,Whiting,Pleece Ex,Fitzpatrick (Ex + replaced by Whiting) 64.6 Ht10 Hilton,Vance,Chessel,Brennan 62.0 Ht11 Hilton,Chessel,Goodwin,Whiting 62.2 Ht12 Hilton,Simmonds,Brennan (3 riders as Pleece dns) 62.4 Ht13 Vance,Hussey,Goodwin F.x (3 riders as Chalcraft dns) 62.5 Lot of falls and on a couple of occasions another rider came into the heat to replace a fallen rider.Hope that helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted March 10, 2015 He was a late change written into the programme, so maybe it is a similar name ( e.g. Wilshire) Aye that crossed my mind. I'll keep digging see what pops up. Iris123, thanks for those details. Cheeky use of Hilton as a TS in heat 11 when Dons were only 5 points down! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted March 11, 2015 He was a late change written into the programme, so maybe it is a similar name ( e.g. Wilshire) Following an evenings internet sleuthing I believe this rider to be Geoff Wiltshire who rode out of Weymouth. Better known in grasstrack circles, still riding as recently as 2012, the one confirmed speedway reference is as one of the meeting reserves in a 1982 WCQR at Weymouth. Unless I hear different, Geoff's the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted April 17, 2015 Have blank Junior progs: 20-06 at Poole 19-07 at Wimbledon 03-08 v Wimbledon 23-10 at Milton Keynes 03-09 at Reading From statistics in back of programme 30-08 v Wimbledon Coles 8+2, Hussey 11+1, Gibbs 4+2, Brennan 5, Chessell 9+2, Barratt 9+1 [46-32] Could you give me the sides as programmed for the Poole match please? With thanks again to Tony Lethbridge, the files for the home junior matches are now complete. One final shout for the queries in my opening post (updated) before I publish the season file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon Hammer 576 Posted April 17, 2015 Poole 1. Dave Brown 2. Billy Pinder 3. Dave Gibbs 4. Brian Hussey 5. Marcus Bisson 6. Wayne Barrett 7. <BLANK> Exeter 1. Michael Coles 2. Terry Mussett 3. Steve Goodwin 4. Gary Chessell 5. Steve Brennan 6. <BLANK> 7. <BLANK> 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted April 21, 2015 A final check on the averages has thrown up a discrepancy involving rides taken by Kent Noer and Keith Millard. Noer only rode in two matches, the second of which was at Eastbourne on 8/4/84. According to Speedway Star, Millard replaced Noer as a TS in heat 13, finishing fourth. I believe this is where the error lies, can anyone confirm the result of the heat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Dave have you the heat details of the 1982 world Semi Final Championship round at Perry Barr Birmingham.I have the speedway star somewhere, but for the life of me can't find it i wondered if you help.? Edited April 22, 2015 by sidney Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldace 1,678 Posted April 22, 2015 Dave have you the heat details of the 1982 world Semi Final Championship round at Perry Barr Birmingham.I have the speedway star somewhere, but for the life of me can't find it i wondered if you help.? Dont say I don't do anything for you Sidney BRITISH SEMIFINAL. Birmingham 14/5/1982. 1.Alan Grahame 13 2.Kenny Carter 12 3.Andy Grahame 12 4.Phil Collins 12 5.Malcolm Holloway 11 6.Peter Collins 9 7.Simon Wigg 9 8.John Davis 8 9.Melvyn Taylor 8 10.Mark Courtney 7 11.Steve Bastable 6 12.Ian Cartwright 5 13.Dave Morton 2 14.Rob Hollingworth 2 15.Malcolm Simmons 2 16.Neil Collins 1 8 to British final. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted April 22, 2015 Dont say I don't do anything for you Sidney BRITISH SEMIFINAL. Birmingham 14/5/1982. 1.Alan Grahame 13 2.Kenny Carter 12 3.Andy Grahame 12 4.Phil Collins 12 5.Malcolm Holloway 11 6.Peter Collins 9 7.Simon Wigg 9 8.John Davis 8 9.Melvyn Taylor 8 10.Mark Courtney 7 11.Steve Bastable 6 12.Ian Cartwright 5 13.Dave Morton 2 14.Rob Hollingworth 2 15.Malcolm Simmons 2 16.Neil Collins 1 8 to British final. Thanks very much Oldace very much appreciated, i have the scorers i just needed the heat details and times thanks again though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted April 22, 2015 Heat details from Speedway Star here https://www.dropbox.com/s/1lto5sg057lf8cf/19820514BirmWCBSF.pdfThanks alot Dave and so quick,the programme is filled in thanks alot, thanks to Oldace as well a nice thought even though he wants to kick my head in! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted May 17, 2015 I reckon I've taken this one as far as it'll go for now so here is the Exeter 1984 file. There are still a couple of unresolved issues which I'll continue to pursue and update the file when necessary. https://www.dropbox.com/s/glpaeebol8hsxut/Exeter%201984.pdf?dl=0 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiseguy 214 Posted June 1, 2015 I reckon I've taken this one as far as it'll go for now so here is the Exeter 1984 file. There are still a couple of unresolved issues which I'll continue to pursue and update the file when necessary. https://www.dropbox.com/s/glpaeebol8hsxut/Exeter%201984.pdf?dl=0 Have only just seen this, Dave, thanks so much as I believe it was me that asked for it in the first place Have only managed a quick look so far, but absolutely bloody brilliant Andy Campbell won races against Hans Neilsen ,Shaun Moran, Chris Morton, Jeremy Doncaster, Billy Sanders and many more.....wow also confirms what I have long thought....Phil Crump was the best rider bar none around the County Ground (in my lifetime) And Stefan Deser...forgot all about him Anyone who thinks guests are a problem in the sport these days, look at how many Exeter used this season Thanks again Dave, excellent work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted October 9, 2020 Bringing this thread back to life as I'm in the process of updating the file. I'm still looking to resolve the 8th April Eastbourne v Exeter (LC) issue - does anyone have a marked programme that can confirm the result of heat 13, in particular whether Noer or Millard rode in the race? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites