The White Knight 9,039 Posted February 25, 2015 So who would YOUR nomination be? Lots of interesting names put forward here but not sure how many (in their prime) would genuinely make a real difference, an impact on a national scale, and improve modern speedway, which is the answer we're searching for. I didn't spell it out in the original question, but modern track conditions and equipment must be factors to consider. Ask yourselves if the thrill merchants of yesteryear would get far on today's 'roads', where passing is at a premium and the bikes are so much easier to ride (leading to fewer mistakes from the trappers)? We're not talking about What we should be looking at is modern speedway's biggest weaknesses in a more general sense, what it is lacking most of all, and how a past rider could make a difference to British speedway today. So PERSONALITY and AURA would surely play a bigger part. We are ideally looking at a past rider who will: 1. Generate national as well as media interest. 2. Be an instant drawcard at tracks wherever he rode, either through his riding style or his personality (good or bad!), or a combination of both. 3. This sounds parochial, but nationality and the ability to communicate his personality to fans and media must also count for a lot, because they are obviously important elements to putting British speedway back on the international map. So, for example, are we looking at a Brit, as opposed to a Dane or any other foreigner, here? Let's face it, it was in many respects the rise and domination of the Danes in the 80s that put the final nail in the coffin of media interest in British speedway. Whether we like it or not, the UK press and media are not interested in niche, poorly supported sports where the Brits are so far off the top tier. Would a former Kiwi superstar be the answer to British speedway's current malaise? Some of you may wish to revise your choices! In reply to your question Tony - it would STILL be Peter Craven for me. He fulfills every one of your three criteria with interest. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Lee 128 Posted February 25, 2015 Hans Nielsen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyMac 720 Posted February 25, 2015 I know most of the stuff on yourtube will have been cherry picked but I think just about every bit of coverage of him on youtube, plus the stories and what I've seen on VHS at home the guy was NEVER dull. If it wasn't a great ride, it was upsetting someone or being upset by someone. There was always something. You either loved him or hated him and I can't believe there was anyone who went, "Kenny Carter, he's alright". A very good answer (sorry, I didn't trawl back through the pages to see your original post). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedwaysliders 176 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Denis Sigalos was silky smooth a clean rider who could pass inside and out,and great tem man.as was cowboy cook. I grew up watching Andy Galvin,who was always in the thick of the action!!! A great racer and team rider. Kelly Moran was a pleasure to watch and talk to,sadly missed. Edited February 25, 2015 by speedwaysliders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Stadia 1,064 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Revised nomination: Fay Taylour Sorry, didn't see her ride, but would be a track draw (or drawers)! Edited February 25, 2015 by Ray Stadia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,211 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) Both riders who i have seen Shawn Moran for the entertainment Jim Airey for the consistant points scorer wherever he went Edited February 25, 2015 by The Third Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vic Meldrew 76 Posted February 26, 2015 The Red Devil, Frank Varey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chewbacca 653 Posted February 26, 2015 For my own enjoyment - Joe Owen For the benefit of the sport - Bruce Penhall 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted February 26, 2015 If people are having 2 goes,,, can I put up Rob Grant snr (legend) :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted February 26, 2015 For smooth riding style and ability, and his riding with L Richardson and M Zagar in heats 13 and 15 or shepherding younger riders to a win, Leigh Adams was a great all round rider. For putting off the opposition at Swindon Steve Gresham. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted February 26, 2015 For smooth riding style and ability, and his riding with L Richardson and M Zagar in heats 13 and 15 or shepherding younger riders to a win, Leigh Adams was a great all round rider. For putting off the opposition at Swindon Steve Gresham. If you want the opposition 'putting off' - look no further than Jack Millen. :D 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695 Posted February 27, 2015 For me as we approach the 30th anniversary of his death I nominate Billy Sanders. As I grew up I had the Witches riders as my heroes and idols and none bigger than Billy. A true no nonsense character who to me was a star on and off the track. The ability to be smooth and fast out front and to be tough and uncomprimising from the back in equal measure. The type of rider the opposition fans would perhaps want to boo but underneath would have a respect and admiration for - a headline maker and shaper. I still vividly remember hanging over the fence at Smallmead on that Tuesday night, just a few months before that fateful day of his death, when the Witches took the title with Billy leading the way and knowing only Speedway would do for me as MY sport. I was 13 when Billy died and I grew up a lot that week as 2 days after my Grandad also died.It was the week in many ways I learnt what life - and death - is all about. So again for me bring back Billy. Richard 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitten2502 252 Posted February 27, 2015 For me........ Phil Herne (Birmingham mid 70's) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted February 28, 2015 I know most of the stuff on yourtube will have been cherry picked but I think just about every bit of coverage of him on youtube, plus the stories and what I've seen on VHS at home the guy was NEVER dull. If it wasn't a great ride, it was upsetting someone or being upset by someone. There was always something. You either loved him or hated him and I can't believe there was anyone who went, "Kenny Carter, he's alright". the other thing to note is that there is very little footage of him on youtube riding either of the two tracks that he rode best - the shay and hyde rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salty 2,200 Posted February 28, 2015 1. Generate national as well as media interest. 2. Be an instant drawcard at tracks wherever he rode, either through his riding style or his personality (good or bad!), or a combination of both. 3. This sounds parochial, but nationality and the ability to communicate his personality to fans and media must also count for a lot, because they are obviously important elements to putting British speedway back on the international map. So, for example, are we looking at a Brit, as opposed to a Dane or any other foreigner, here? Let's face it, it was in many respects the rise and domination of the Danes in the 80s that put the final nail in the coffin of media interest in British speedway. Whether we like it or not, the UK press and media are not interested in niche, poorly supported sports where the Brits are so far off the top tier. Given those re-iterated criteria I can't see past Penhall. But to generate those column inches you would probably need Kenny back as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites