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365 still +10 3/4 about Swindon for the match only gone +6 on the after 8 heats market. I'm quite found of Belle Vue today and have backed then -6 at William Hill. I wish I'd found this earlier in the season.

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Done several small ones tonight

 

Cook over 7

Nicholls over 8

Nicholls +2 v Kildemand

Grajczonek v zengota

Belle Vue -6

 

and the ties

Edited by Rob B

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Done several small ones tonight

 

Cook over 7

Nicholls over 8

Nicholls +2 v Kildemand

Grajczonek v zengota

Belle Vue -6

 

and the ties

Do the bookies pay out bets based on 14 heats rob or are they voided ??

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Do the bookies pay out bets based on 14 heats rob or are they voided ??

If the bet is already won or lost they will pay out. If heat 15 could change the result it's void.

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I had a few bets that were likely to win, but hadn't technically won that were void and likewise losers settled as voids

 

as no riders were named for heat 15 i'm unsure what bet365s policy is,

 

they settle my summers +3 v fricke as a winner, but my worrall -2 v wright as a loser

 

what would have happened if AJ touched the tapes in heat 15, could BV have bought in a reserve?

if so that reserve could have been Worrall, who in turn could have won the race, and won my bet

 

I know all that is not going to happen, but technically it could have, so I thought their rules were any bet that could have possibly changed were void

 

unless there is some rule about reserves not being allowed in heat 15 after a tapes incident that I am unaware of

 

not overly bothered because it was only small bets, but if I had had a big bet I would be a bit fed up that they voided my morris +2 v cook as I don't reckon cook would have got heat 15

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Reserves are not allowed in heat 15. And Fricke not eligible so they couldn't score any more.

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Reserves are not allowed in heat 15. And Fricke not eligible so they couldn't score any more.

Not even if someone touched the tapes?

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Not even if someone touched the tapes?

Tapes and 2 minutes is 15 metres. Injury is any other eligible rider.

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Done several small ones tonight

Cook over 7

Nicholls over 8

Nicholls +2 v Kildemand

Grajczonek v zengota

Belle Vue -6

and the ties

3 winners and 2 voids that were on the balance

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We have been told a few times by the same stupid people and each time the reason have been shown to complete rubbish with no logic ..yet again why don't you try to explain why it is suckers bet to compared to any others ? the problem is you can't and won't be able to .

 

It is sucker because there are too many unpredictable factors like: weather, track preparation, riders fatigue, bike setup and they didnt even get to the tapes.

Then in every heat there is a chance of exclusion(crash, tape touch), bike failure. Also hard to guess rider substitutions.

Already too many things unpredictable if you play a h2h these things multiples...

 

Other big problem is the odds for rider points and h2h. Ideal would be a 2way bet with the odds of 1.9 (10/11), if you bet these kind of bets you have to hit 53% of your bets.

Now if its a 3way bet like bet365 offers you have to cover exact scores so already losing value and bets that most people play here are not 10/11.

You end up playing an odds of ~1.60 (3/5) which means you have to hit ~63% so you need to win 7 bets out of 10 if you want to have some profit.

Numbers are against you but as i said im gonna be the first to congratulate, if you keep an accurate and verifiable record of your winning season here.

Edited by Dawkins20

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Surely all the factors you mention also make it hard for bookmakers to price the odds. Thereby creating excellent opportunities for the knowledgeable punter?

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It is sucker because there are too many unpredictable factors like: weather, track preparation, riders fatigue, bike setup and they didnt even get to the tapes.

Then in every heat there is a chance of exclusion(crash, tape touch), bike failure. Also hard to guess rider substitutions.

Already too many things unpredictable if you play a h2h these things multiples...

 

Other big problem is the odds for rider points and h2h. Ideal would be a 2way bet with the odds of 1.9 (10/11), if you bet these kind of bets you have to hit 53% of your bets.

Now if its a 3way bet like bet365 offers you have to cover exact scores so already losing value and bets that most people play here are not 10/11.

You end up playing an odds of ~1.60 (3/5) which means you have to hit ~63% so you need to win 7 bets out of 10 if you want to have some profit.

Numbers are against you but as i said im gonna be the first to congratulate, if you keep an accurate and verifiable record of your winning season here.

So just like any other bet then ....best not bet on anything in case the weather changes maybe your horse might hit a fence ..don't bet on football in case a player might get sent off etc etc . every bet is the same you weigh up what might happen then you take your chance luck can play a role in any bet .if you used your logic you would never bet on anything

 

Just like any form of betting if you don't bet on every meeting and take your time and be selective you can win money ...head to head betting or points scores is no different to any other bet .As for you numbers you are baseing that people are using the same stake everytime ...I could have nine losing bets for £ 20 and win more with my last bet if I had say £ 400 on so don't have to win 53 % of your bets at all .

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Surely all the factors you mention also make it hard for bookmakers to price the odds. Thereby creating excellent opportunities for the knowledgeable punter?

 

The problem is that most factors not knowledgeable even if you follow speedway world 24/7, they are very unpredictable. Bookies dont need to be on the right side, they make up an odds and then watch the market if too much money comes in on one side they decrease the odds and try to lure people on the other side.

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