robolots 35 Posted May 25, 2015 To be honest I hope it is not a "budget" engine but a serious competitor for GM. The only rider I know at anywhere near International standard on Jawa at the moment is Smolinski. Although I applaud the thinking behind an engine that can last longer between servicing, if it isn't fast enough then no one will want it whether National League, Premier League or Tiddlywinks League. If more engines come on board that are direct competition for GM then it will create a better and competitive market place. Having an essentially one series engine is no good for any motorsport in the long run, unless you are basing that motorsport on already production based vehicles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 25, 2015 Let's be honest, Bomber used it in ine race in a GP abd nobody would have said the bike he was on was any lesser a bike/engine than his other rides. Just because the target isn't a top class engine doesn't mean it won't happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherwatcher 664 Posted May 26, 2015 From what I saw of Bomber race, the engine certainly had the speed, if he had not nearly hit the rider in front, I think you would have seen a better idea of what it could do. Hope to see more of it, to get a better idea of what it has to offer. It looks like it could well be used in the PL or NL if the price is right and may even be used in the higher leagues. Just needs to prove that it can compete with GM. Only time will tell. But things seem to be going well for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
To The Point 356 Posted May 26, 2015 From what I saw of Bomber race, the engine certainly had the speed, if he had not nearly hit the rider in front, I think you would have seen a better idea of what it could do. Hope to see more of it, to get a better idea of what it has to offer. It looks like it could well be used in the PL or NL if the price is right and may even be used in the higher leagues. Just needs to prove that it can compete with GM. Only time will tell. But things seem to be going well for it. Surely its a GM case with a multitude of after market parts inside it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted May 26, 2015 IT has to be competitive and both reliable and durable because that is where the savings will kick in not with the up front price, although as stated it will come ready built and not in kit form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted May 27, 2015 Surely its a GM case with a multitude of after market parts inside it Not what I have Seen/heard. I also heard that BMW have some input/interest in it as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) What a tease you are Phil APPARENTLY 'negotiations' have not been finalised so have to wait another week... Surely its a GM case with a multitude of after market parts inside it NO connection with GM whatsoever and no after market parts either... Not what I have Seen/heard. I also heard that BMW have some input/interest in it as well... NOT BMW ... either Edited May 28, 2015 by PHILIPRISING Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gearhead 31 Posted May 28, 2015 Toby Kroner was the one racing with a BMW engine This has to be the future of regular speedway,personally I think it's the only was the sport will survive in the long run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted May 28, 2015 Toby Kroner was the one racing with a BMW engine This has to be the future of regular speedway,personally I think it's the only was the sport will survive in the long run Don't think it was/is a BMW engine.It was built by someone who worked for BMW,but was a private project Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffster 60 Posted May 29, 2015 Emil was testing it a couple of years ago! Ashley Holloway is "just" a tuner, and a very good one at that.... His main client is Emil, who uses Ash to tune his GM Engines http://www.ash-tech.pl ASH-TECH was established in 2007 and has been at the forefront of speedway engine tuning ever since. For testing and problem solving we have a DYNOMET Rolling road After porting & polishing, heads are flowtested on our state of the art SUPERFLOW SF260 and together with the FLOWCOM & PERFORMANCE TRENDS port analysis program we can make the perfect port every time. We use a combination of the MIRA VGX 21 with centralising dial gauges and COMEC RV 516 for the perfect valve seats. Valve springs are tested and logged into our database with the COMPU-SPRING PT200 Spring tester. Cleaning is performed in our OZZYFILTER bio cleaner, Then put through our heated wash machine for a perfect finish before re assembly. Here is a list of the companys we co operate with: GM Engines, Italy X-Ti LLC, Russia Trick Titanium, USA PAC, USA Ferrea, USA FSW, Italy Grosswachter Racing Parts, Germany Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted May 30, 2015 I noticed Peter Karlsson was on a Gerhard engine tonight at Leicester! Ashley Holloway is "just" a tuner, and a very good one at that.... His main client is Emil, who uses Ash to tune his GM Engines http://www.ash-tech.pl ASH-TECH was established in 2007 and has been at the forefront of speedway engine tuning ever since.For testing and problem solving we have a DYNOMET Rolling roadAfter porting & polishing, heads are flowtested on our state of the art SUPERFLOW SF260 and together with the FLOWCOM & PERFORMANCE TRENDS port analysis program we can make the perfect port every time.We use a combination of the MIRA VGX 21 with centralising dial gauges and COMEC RV 516 for the perfect valve seats.Valve springs are tested and logged into our database with the COMPU-SPRING PT200 Spring tester.Cleaning is performed in our OZZYFILTER bio cleaner, Then put through our heated wash machine for a perfect finish before re assembly.Here is a list of the companys we co operate with:GM Engines, ItalyX-Ti LLC, RussiaTrick Titanium, USAPAC, USAFerrea, USAFSW, ItalyGrosswachter Racing Parts, Germany No, i'm 100% i have a photo of it, i first saw the engine in 2011 on Hans Andersen twitter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherwatcher 664 Posted May 31, 2015 From what I have seen of the engine on the internet, it is not using a GM case, it looks simular, but there are few slight differences to the design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,645 Posted May 31, 2015 I noticed Peter Karlsson was on a Gerhard engine tonight at Leicester! No, i'm 100% i have a photo of it, i first saw the engine in 2011 on Hans Andersen twitter! You may have mistaken that there had been an ASH-TECH stamp on the engine case as the manufacture. It's never been so that ASH-TECH have manufactured a speedway engine, they're just and always have been a GM tuner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted May 31, 2015 From what I have seen of the engine on the internet, it is not using a GM case, it looks simular, but there are few slight differences to the design. It doesn't look similar at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted May 31, 2015 It doesn't look similar at all. Its got that bit of ERM look about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites